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    Default Re: Newtown School Shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironside View Post
    Actually, it got me more confused, since that's city size. While it varies a lot by classification, anything above 5.000-100.000 is a city. Not a townie here, you city dweller.

    Anyway, more to my point. If I get you correctly, you're living in a middle class suburban villa area with low crime rates (at least of the violent kind). Correct?

    Yet you arm yourself to protect against Fallout cannibalistic raiders, since they are such a big threat.
    Do you remember any local home invasions? You seem to recall most murders in the area. The urban guy living in the crime ridden areas do at least have a very clear reason for having heavy defense.

    You are pretty much classified as a crazy paranoid, by default, in any other western country simply because the attitudes are so different. And the other regions that have a similar gun attitude are unstable/tribal/lacks a functional goverment/overrun by crocks. And that will colour the entire debate.

    Sure. I live in dense suburbia. It is a well-to-do area where people are extremely polite and crime is nearly non-existent. It is also urbanizing quickly. As urban people are rapidly de-armed, I believe that the idea that we should rapidly arm in the face of urbanization isnt a terrible one, especially if it is a hobby. 40 years ago, my neighborhood was farmland occupied a low tens of thousands. It has seen extraordinary population growth and people per square mile. With this has come marked increases in lawlessness, particularly in Nassau county. I look to Queens and Nassau as an example of what to expect in another 10-20 years. It would be best to render city like gun control uselss in advance of eventual bans of lawful ownership.
    Again, the people of the 5 boroughs are not allowed to carry a knife in excess of 3 inches with any ability to protect their hands with a lock. The right to defend yourself in NYC to a reasonable extent is non-existant. They also abuse due process with random checks - not for terror related objects mind you - but for small amounts of marijuana.

    Also, I'm not paranoid. I have discretionary income, no interest in purchasing a home or fancy car, and an interest in the military - what else am I going to do with my money?
    My fear of authoritative government abusing it's power is no greater than yours. My fear of criminal activity is no greater than yours. I simply would like to arm myself to the greatest extent possible. My fear of death is no greater than yours - but I will bet I have more life insurance to protect my wife than you do.
    Preparation is not a sign of fear, it's not even an expectation that something will happen. For some it might be. I'm all about dressing well, not being aggressive and having an unimaginable amount of firepower. I have a tea collection and I did nothing beyond buy 2 bottles of smart water before Hurricane Sandy. I didn't regret it.
    Last edited by ICantSpellDawg; 12-22-2012 at 19:08.
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