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Annual death statistics for Australia in 2010 with a pretty bubble graph:

http://m.smh.com.au/national/health/...228-2bz8u.html

Picture:
http://images.smh.com.au/file/2012/1...=1356742625991

An Aussie 15 year old boy has an 8% chance of dying by 60. A US 15 yr old boy a 14% chance by 60.

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Your homicide rate is 1/4 ours. Why isn't it listed in that picture?

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That's a falsehood.

Edit: I think it may be a syntactic misapprehension on my part. You mean to say that the Australian homicide rate is one-fourth of the American, and not that the Australian homicide rate is 25% greater than the American - right?

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it is approx 25% of our rate.
Here are some stats from the UN. While we have a higher rate, our rate has been going down at a faster rate than Australia's for the past few years, in spite of expanded firearms rights following the assault weapon ban expiration in the 90's. This, coupled with our radically different demographics, our much higher concentration of large urban areas totaling 250k individuals or more, and the fact that we are much more accessible to extremely impoverished and under educated immigrants (which I welcome as they need our opportunity the most) begins to answer some of the questions regarding why we have a higher homicide rate than australia in this instance. Our ownership and protected status of firearms absolutely explains our higher gun homicide rate and the higher success rate of suicide attempts, but it has an inverted relationship with violent crime globally. Our second amendment is a unique and cherished thing in this country for self defense and as insurance against abusive government and, I believe, that the data is consistent with a pro-access argument of guns in the hands of law abiding, mentally sound Americans.

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Australia is more urbanized then the US (89 vs 82%)

As for gun deaths Au has less per capita, and it looks like it is dropping faster

2001 -> 2010
US 4.9 to 4.2 = 9% drop
AU 1.6 to 1.0 = 48% drop

If you can supply the 1995 homicide rates for US I can calculate out the percentage change.

For the US to have a similar percentage drop it would have had to have around 6.7 /100k in 1995.

PS the chart lists only some of the potential deaths... Mainly the large or outliers... It mentions this in the bottom right corner as a partial listing.

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I trust the FBI's statistics more than the UN.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr...es/10tbl01.xls

I have already brought these figures up before. 50% reduction in such crimes since 1991. Equal or better than Australia.

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