Dingdong, bullyouknowhat alert

**Fragony** · 01-06-2013, 13:38

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...father-1521289

You probably heard of the horrible rape in India and the public outrage and riots. They got it wrong I think, this was no ordinary rape I think but a class issue. She was with a guy from a different class 'who was not her boyfriend', and they were attacked with iron staves. In a bus. Yeah right I also bring one wherever I go. There is absolutely a problem with rapes in India but I am not buying this.

**rajpoot** · 01-06-2013, 19:06

Originally Posted by Fragony

They got it wrong I think, this was no ordinary rape I think but a class issue. She was with a guy from a different class 'who was not her boyfriend', and they were attacked with iron staves.

?? Where exactly are you getting this 'class issue' thing from?
The six people involved were lowlifes who saw a girl and her friend (or boyfriend) and decided to take advantage of the girl once they boarded the bus. When they resisted they were beaten up, the girl was raped and then tortured.
Things have settled down now, and considering how angry everyone is, at least five of them will either hang or they'll be in prison for a long time. The sixth, who's a few months shy of 18, will probably get off with nominal punishment, which is actually what is bothering everyone now.

**Fragony** · 01-06-2013, 19:16

I don't don't know about you but I never carry iron staves around. This was no ordinary rape.

**rajpoot** · 01-06-2013, 19:26

Originally Posted by Fragony

I don't don't know about you but I never carry iron staves around. This was no ordinary rape.

It was a private bus. It was not a large iron staff but a rod....probably something like a crowbar from the tool box.
You're basing your theory on a very flimsy base.

Quoting from Wikipedia article -

When Awindra tried to intervene, he was beaten, gagged and knocked unconscious with an iron rod. The men dragged the woman to the rear of the bus, beating her with the rod and raping her while the bus driver continued to drive. Medical reports later suggested that the woman suffered serious injuries to her abdomen, intestines and genitals due to the assault, and doctors say that the damage indicates that a blunt object (suspected to be the iron rod) may have been used for penetration. That rod was later described by police as being a rusted, L-shaped implement of the type used as a wheel jack handle.

**Fragony** · 01-06-2013, 19:35

Don't think so, why would they have iron rods even if it was a private company. This stinks.

**rajpoot** · 01-06-2013, 19:41

Originally Posted by Fragony

Don't think so, why would they have iron rods even if it was a private company. This stinks.

Read my post again.

Caste based violence here has been brutal, but this is nothing of that sort.
Either way it's past 12 in the night here and I've already read way too much news articles on this topic in the past 20 minutes to last me through my sleeping hours. I suggest you check them out if you want more information, before making up theories.

**Fragony** · 01-07-2013, 09:34

Originally Posted by rajpoot

It was a private bus. It was not a large iron staff but a rod....probably something like a crowbar from the tool box.
You're basing your theory on a very flimsy base.

Quoting from Wikipedia article -

Article says iron bars, plural. So more people had one.

**rajpoot** · 01-07-2013, 10:01

The article is from the website of a British daily, giving news about a crime in India. The Indian media is not known for its credibility, but this has been a highly publicised case so the chances of them getting such facts wrong are slight.
Furthermore basing your entire theory around whether there was one iron rod from a tool box or multiple iron bars, while ignoring the many many news reports on the topic is, to put it mildly rather silly.

What I cannot fathom is why are you so bent on trying to see this as caste crime?

**HoreTore** · 01-08-2013, 00:07

Originally Posted by rajpoot

You're basing your theory on a very flimsy base.

That's a good summary every single one of frag's 23 504 posts.

Anyway, did you guys catch that awsome-o Guru? I give him a "10" if he attempted to make the mullahs look better by comparison...

Edit: also, I read this thread in-between pausing to exhale the chili of my chicken tikka. Most appropriate meal I've had this year!

**rajpoot** · 01-08-2013, 06:04

Originally Posted by HoreTore

Anyway, did you guys catch that awsome-o Guru? I give him a "10" if he attempted to make the mullahs look better by comparison...

He'll get his fair share of flak for the inane remarks. Regrettably most of the flak will probably be in from of comments on news articles and a further dip in his popularity. Ideally he should be locked in with some kind of hungry carnivore or something and then asked to chant his mantras to see if it helps save him.

Originally Posted by HoreTore

Edit: also, I read this thread in-between pausing to exhale the chili of my chicken tikka. Most appropriate meal I've had this year!

I wouldn't have thought this makes for good meal-time news.

**Fragony** · 01-08-2013, 10:58

Originally Posted by HoreTore

That's a good summary every single one of frag's 23 504 posts.

Oh shoo. If it is as it is as in the Guardian, multiple iron bars, howwould you explain that. They have been going out, I take it the other passengers as well as it was a private bus. The iron bars must allready have been in the bus as you don't carry them around, or the other passengers didn't go out at all and had no other reason to be in that bus. You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to see thatbsomething isn't quite right here

99% sure the police should have a chat with the family of the guy. Rape is humiliation, and class is a big issue in India it's a parallel society, intertwining said societies is not accepted and when it does happen it can be brutal.

Guardian is no rag, if there weren't multiple iron bars it would have been rectified by now. I am just smarter than you.

Edit, how is the guy doing by the way, still recovering from his injuries or was he he just held back