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    winston 4 champs Member Zack's Avatar
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    This will be a fairly simple tournament consisting of Jedi Knights, Sith Lords, and what have you. There will be twelve participants in the round robin, which will determine the seeding for the tournament. Once the real tournament rolls around, the top four seeds each earn a first-round bye. Matchups will be adjusted according to seed after each round (i.e. #1 will always play the lowest seeded player remaining, and #12 will always play the highest seeded player remaining).

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    Each player has four stats which are pertinent to their success (or lack thereof) in the game.

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    Lightsaber Attack: Your ability to attack an opponent using a lightsaber.

    Lightsaber Defense: Your ability to defend yourself from lightsaber attacks.

    Force Attack: Your ability to attack an opponent using the Force.

    Force Defense: Your ability to defend yourself from Force attacks.


    At the beginning of the game, each player has forty points to allocate to each stat (there is no upper limit) in whichever way they see fit. Please PM these to me when you sign up. After each round robin match, each player gains an additional two points to allocate. These points may be spent at any time by sending me a PM - if you so choose, you could theoretically not spent a single additional point until after the round robin ends, or you can spend the points after each round. You are responsible for keeping track of your stats.

    Battles are calculated in the following manner:

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    There is also a betting system. Rather than having each player possess a finite amount of credits, players may bet as much money as they so desire (according to limits described later). The player at the end of the game with the highest net earnings will win the betting game (which is entirely separate from and secondary to the outcome of the tournament).

    During the round robin, players may bet up to a maximum of 20 credits on ONE matchup of their choosing (may not bet on themselves). During the tournament, players may bet on as many matchups as they want, and the limit will increase each round.

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    To make it easier on myself, betting will not necessarily work as it actually would in real life. Thus, players will bet on simple point spreads.

    A more in-depth explanation of point spreads is located here.

    For our purposes...

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    Outcome: earnings
    
    Win bet: amount bet + (amount bet * 1.5)
    
    Push: amount bet
    
    Lose bet: - (amount bet)

    * Please note that the point spreads are determined entirely by factors such as win-loss percentage and winning/losing streaks. Don't try to read into them, as they do not betray any information that is privy only to the GM.


    As I said earlier, I'm looking for twelve players. When you sign up, please PM me your stat allocation (remember you have forty points available to spend as you please). You MUST spend ALL of these points before the game begins.



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    Ciergan
    autolycus
    BSmith
    Last edited by Zack; 01-09-2013 at 21:52.

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    Default Re: Duel of the Fates

    CivCube here. In. Sending stat allocation shortly.

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    In. Sending stat allocation now.
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    In. Will try to get stats sent tonight.
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    The Bad Doctor Senior Member Chaotix's Avatar
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    I'm interested in the concept, but I'm concerned that the battle system is a little too simplistic.

    In the end, everything is going to come solely down to your stats, and since battles are based on damage output and not hit points, I could potentially game the system by putting all of my points into a single offensive stat.

    For instance- say I put all 40 starting points into Lightsaber attack. The standard player is going to put on average only 10 points into lightsaber defense - let's assume it's exactly 10. Then I deal 30 damage, and my opponent's score is based on their combined lightsaber and force attacks. The only way for them to match me in damage output is to put no points into Force defense - and even then he can only tie me.

    In fact, it is the same for ANY stat spread as long as I put all of my points into a Lightsaber attack. I win if my opponent puts any points into Force defense; I tie if my opponent puts 0 points into Force defense. So with such a stat spread using this system, I cannot lose, ever.

    You could potentially fix this balance issue in a few ways:
    -Add an HP stat.
    -Add a Speed stat or some sort of "dodge mechanic" (introduces an element of randomness into the battles).
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    winston 4 champs Member Zack's Avatar
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    Alternatively, I could implement a restriction that mandates balance (e.g. the highest stat cannot be more than 200% the value of the lowest stat). I don't want to make the combat system overly complicated, for my own selfish reasons (limiting the time constraint on myself).
    Last edited by Zack; 01-08-2013 at 02:31.

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    The Bad Doctor Senior Member Chaotix's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zack View Post
    Alternatively, I could implement a restriction that mandates balance (e.g. the highest stat cannot be more than 200% the value of the lowest stat). I don't want to make the combat system overly complicated, for my own selfish reasons (limiting the time constraint on myself).
    Actually, sorry to say that doesn't fix anything.

    Using your example, I take the following stat spread:
    LA:16
    LD:8
    FA:8
    FD:8

    (Note that by example your 200% rule is actually similar to a hard stat cap at 16 - I can't make a stat any higher than this at the beginning of the game)

    Now, against a player with 16 LD and 8 FD, we necessarily have a tie at 0 damage for each player. For each point you remove from LD, I will deal another point of damage, and my opponent can put points in either LA/FA (which will give them a point of damage on me) or FD (which will do nothing useful). At best I win, and at worst I tie.

    So I won't be winning by a huge margin and it's a little more subtle, but I can still game the system and effectively never lose.

    I totally understand wanting to limit the number of calculations you have to do for each battle, but unfortunately there's a reason that even relatively simple RPG battle systems are often quite complex.
    Last edited by Chaotix; 01-08-2013 at 02:58.
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