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    Default Re: [SS 6.4 Late] Hundread Years War - Deathmatch game

    @Mithridate your gamble did not pay off and apparently you had brought all the members of the French royal bloodline to England, where they have perished and will be interred in unmarked graves.

    First the newly built navies in London removed your forces' escape route by crushing the ships off of London's ports:
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    Then they sailed off to Nottingham to gather what troops they could in anticipation of London's imminent fall, to atleast punish the invading French noblemen after the sacking of our fair capital. En route to Nottingham they spotted the ship which assisted in circumventing London's walls and destroyed it:
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    Bearing the full knowledge that the Royal Exchequer of England would greatly aid the French invaders, our valorous King attempted a mad dash at the superiour besieging forces in an attempt to distract them while the gold and valuables were smuggled off to Nottingham castle. This caught the French by surprise and as they were still constructing siege weapons and organizing their camp, the English knights swept down and won a surprising victory!
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    The French retreated to a nearby temporary fortified encampment, but the King gave chase and stormed their position without hesitation:
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    The garrison of Winchester castle sallied out to root out the French blockades:
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    And finally both forces united north of London and made a final move to end the French usurper's life, thereby ensuring Plantagenet claim on the French and English thrones:
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    Losing all your FM's and forgetting about Night Figther are the top reasons good players lose hotseats Good game Mithridate! Would you like me to leave the King alone so we can continue the game (you'd still get your other forces beaten though)?
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    LOL

    Ouch. I propose either that or a rematch, since this seems to have ended without having started. :)
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    Worth the gamble and i dont forget night fighters, but do tell me

    How many times did you reload to get that win? ;) @Myth
    I could get 3 more units there, all sergeant quality i should add

    No rematch as i lost the first one, My turn for england mr no reloading (yes, im sure you did)
    Tbh, if you let me replay and do the same thing im sure you'd not win manage anything but a draw at best

    Or am i mistaken?
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    I beat the two naval battles, moved units from Nottingham to the ships in its port then recruited one in Nottingham. At that point I decided I'd rather not have you sack London so I sallied. These were the first actions I did, I can clear the save and give it to you if you want. If you had 3 more I probably would not have won the battle but you would not have made it out of England alive anyway.

    Better yet, download the save you uploaded yourself. The password for England is "victory'. Check it out yourself. If I would have loaded don't you think I would have done menial actions like move agents or such to change the random seed? Everything I did was military related - boats, units, recruitment, fighting.

    Here is the exact order of the things I did: Beat ships next to port, set ships to Nottingham's port, beat ship that blocks the way. Go to Nottingham's port. Get cav units from Nottingham aboard the ships. Get the infantry to end it's turn in a forest on the road since they can't reach the port. I recruited a 1 unit in Nottingham. Now I grabbed the main army in london and attacked (assuming I'd lose) and I won.

    I tried attacking outright now and it was a clear defeat, so you have the right to be suspicious. But I give you my word this was exactly what happened. I've had a theory for some time now that successive victories give better chances to win other battles, so I think that may have had an influence.

    If you are so angry about this I can skip the stack in London and you can assault next turn, and we can see how it goes.
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    Im not angry, but very suspicious indeed^^ Shit happens tho so you could very well just be lucky. (strings of vics ive not seen affecting anything, but fighting is the one certain way to get a new random string) Me loading and doing the same would generate the same outcome so thats pointless. It would be interesting to see however how many reloads id need to get a win just to know HOW unlucky i was^^ id say one in a dozen at best.

    Big battles with inferior commander vs superior troops and 2x numbers and close to 1:3 odds...
    I should have won that, and with it id win the war. But again, shit happens
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    Ive taken a look, surprisingly easy to get a victory for that battle despite1:3 odds
    Must have been playing too much westeros hotseats, there it would have been impossible as the AR is tweaked

    Worst odds easiest win ive seen in SS, are we playing normal/normal?

    At any rate, bring it on next round!

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    We're playing VH/VH and you're underestimating archers in SS. I think the lower tier archers are quite overpowered in this mod. Archer Militia have been producing better results than 14 defence infantry... About changing the random seed: even moving a priest one square away is enough to change it, no need to use something as noticeable as battles.

    I'm away until Sunday so we can continue then. If you had taken London in that sally you would have not gotten to sack it, you'd have lost 50% of your troops, you boats would all have been sunk and superior troops would be closing in from the north and west, so I very much doubt your statement that you would have won the war. It was still anyone's game.
    Last edited by Myth; 01-18-2013 at 09:21.
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    factors, to be taken into account in one's deliberations,
    when seeking to determine the conditions obtaining in the field.

    These are: (1) The Moral Law; (2) Heaven; (3) Earth;
    (4) The Commander; (5) Method and discipline.
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