Forget the vatican let's nuke Brussels

[Greyblades]

A Lesson from history: Things don't go all that well when you let Cicero run the Republic.

Also - if you accept that Farage is a halfway-decent politician and thinker then you have to confront the possibility he might be right about the EU.

Maybe, the likely-hood is that something this complex probably doesnt have an overall right choice. The obviousness of his agenda and that all three of the main party leaders disagree/ed with him, those men, while lacking compared to predecessors, are probably halfway-decent politicians and thinkers themselves gives reason to doubt that.

I cant help but think that the british public are wanting out through the same sort of anger that sparked the riots, being directed by UKip and others against the EU, than any particular failings of the EU, either way I'm no longer so sure leaving the EU is the best option.

[Fragony]

Judge yourself http://m.youtube.com/results?q=nigel...%20compilation

He just sees things a bit better

Looks like we get a referendum as well about being in the EU, guess what I will say, probably the same as last time

[Fragony]

Failpad won't let me edit for some reason. But here is a fascinating look into the mindset of an eurocrat, our own 'liberal' unelected Neelie Kroes, she is furious that the international-socialism gets less money, someone has to pay the 11.200 eurocrats who make more money than our MP after all, or soundscreens for cows in Poland or deserted airports in Spain, or fitness-centres for the dogs of the Swedish royal family.

'The EU is too important to leave to (democratically elected) politicians'

[Husar]

It's best if we abandon the EU so the corporations can continue their globalization policies of divide and conquer by blackmailing countries to offer them cheaper labor and lower taxes or move elsewhere. I'm sure quoting some guy from the NPD would also make a united and independent Germany under NPD rule look like a stupid idea; doesn't mean we should abandon Germany because of it.
Europe needs to grow together because it will get eaten otherwise. Noone said that's easy.

Nigel Farage is just a ranting fool. He may have a point sometimes but then he always drowns it in an overreaction because he can't stop seeing the EU as some beast that wants to take away his candy. And since he's from Britain that makes him a populist...

[InsaneApache]

Nigel Farage is just a ranting fool. He may have a point sometimes but then he always drowns it in an overreaction because he can't stop seeing the EU as some beast that wants to take away his candy. And since he's from Britain that makes him a populist...

He's no fool and he doesn't rant.

The thing is this. We, in the UK, were told deliberate falsehoods and distortions when we joined in '73. These lies by traitors, yes traitors, were re-iterated in the '75 referendum. I'm into my sixth decade and even I was too young to vote in 75. If I had voted I would probably voted to stay in. Such was the scale of the deception back then.

Fast forward forty years and the British people can see that they were hoodwinked. Then they see the bloody mess the euro-politicians have made of it. A right dogs dinner. The referendum wont come in five years because that's more lies. 'Cast Iron' has form on this. The LibDems (who should be sued under the Trades Descriptions Act) promised a referendum in the 2010 election when they thought they had no chance of power but as soon as they get into government they obfuscate and deny.

Maybe a referendum from the Torys. No referendum from Labour, same with the Lib Dems.

All on the wrong side of history.

Watch the elections next year to see the LabConLibDem party get a right shoeing.

That is all.

[Fragony]

Well I wish I could rant as well as him, but he is certainly no fool. If someone takes the time to watch his rants it's hard to say that he didn't outline what is happening now allready 5 years ago. Exactly. Got him only scorn from a Flemmish ferret who looks like an owl who just dropped from his tree, his Portugese waiter and a German booksalesman. He even got a fine.

[InsaneApache]

It's a good job they don't fine UK politicos for being beastly to other politicos. They'd all be skint.

Says it all when the EU wants to uphold EU values and fine/dismiss/prosecute journalists and bloggers for holding contrary views.

And the continentals (well some of 'em) wonder why the British don't like the EU. It's an anathema to our psyche.

Maybe it's because we were one of the few countries in Europe not to be occupied these last 100 years.