Council of Nobles - discussions of upcoming games

[Myth]

Hey guys, I'm making this thread so we can have one place where we can discuss upcoming new games and iron out the rules for them, have players request a game they'd like to play and also have admins post when spots are open in ongoing games. So what new games would you like to see? Personally I like Nigel's 100 years war idea. I think this may have been Cecil's originally (and the mod in question was the 100 years campaign in Lands to Conquer)

I was also thinking of starting a versus RPG, where a SS Early game is fast forwarded for 400 turns. The ERE and Turks are given 1 million florins at the beginning to ensure they grow and don't kill each other off. The desired result is having a very large and powerful ERE and Turks, to simulate the Ottoman Turks conquering Constantinople. In the year 1400 in SS we have gunpowder and very interesting Late Professional armies.

I was thinking of making this a "versus" RPG where both sides get players and they fight for Constantinople and a few key cities around it.

[Myth]

Anyone up for a Westeros: Total War hotseat?

[Ferret]

I would be, assuming I can get the mod installed and working correctly.

[Mithridate]

Im in as long as its not FnB

Tho i must warn you, its very different from the usual hotseating ( hotseated this mod a lot on the TWC westeros hotseating forum )

Do you want Westeros: total war Enchanted ( Westeros but for hotseating, just after Eddard and the Sept )
Blackfyre rebellion ( awesome, needs to be tweaked slighly as some factions start with 250.000 tho )
Kings of Rivers and Hills ( awesome, completely awesome^^ I call dibbs on Hoare )
Fire and Blood? ( i know little about this one, basically Dothraki have arrived and Eddard n the Sept never happened? Not 100%^^ )

At any rate, some tweaks must be made to ensure long term balance in all of em, Possible exception being Kings of Rivers and Hills

[Myth]

Hmm, if you have experience with HS for this mod maybe you can suggest the submods? I have that one which gives stannis the ability to spawn 10 star assassin shadows and that's a bit OP IMO.

Also, did I detect sarcasm in that "great and powerful" statement of yours? I also see that LooseCanon isn't happy with the quality of the HS guide i've written, yet Invicta's guide is focused only on economy, and while excellent, is not at all helpful to those who have never experienced the joy of regular M2TW autoresolve (you are correct regarding infantry in M2TW, but AR was rebalanced for Stainless Steel and KGCM with the hotseat patch. So you are both right in essence) or had their entire army wiped out by 3 GB units and a few HAs in fought battles.

[LooseCannon1]

There are about 20 ongoing hotseats right now for Westeros. And 2 more pages of finished or dead games. The released Westeros mod is unplayable (so I was told) in hotseats so everyone uses a submod depending on which era you want the game to be played in. Character and faction names and regions all get revised so choosing you faction becomes important. There is a large amount of imbalance. There are no spies or siege engines in any submod so it depends on who gets their stacks together first or can throw up a line of forts. Proper fort rules are a must! Some new files are being tested right now to improve things.

Autoresolve and the Battle AI used create such different results that autoresolve is almost mandatory. In an A/R siege you would lose about a third of the men you'd lose in fighting the battle.

Actually, both guides, as I have come to learn, have little use in a Westeros hotseat. There's no economy to worry about, spies and siege engines nonexistant, and the only real strategy is - well, I'm not telling

[Mithridate]

Also, did I detect sarcasm in that "great and powerful" statement of yours?

Youre the one guy ive looked up to since i started hotseating and still do, your guide gave me a great start and there was no sarcasm whatsoever. Though, perhaps a slight reference to ponies The guide is great, and i view invictas to be a complementary read.

Hmm, if you have experience with HS for this mod maybe you can suggest the submods? I have that one which gives stannis the ability to spawn 10 star assassin shadows and that's a bit OP IMO.

for enchanted, the submod most used thus far: He can also make galleys everywhere, like greyjoy can do longboats. This crushes late game balance as others can make only measly sailers ( and yes, shadowbabies must be banned or restricted ) Greyjoy can only recruit their troops on the isles, massive handicap for lategame greyjoy. Martell can only recruit his troops in dorne, same thing tho not as bad.

I also see that LooseCanon isn't happy with the quality of the HS guide i've written, yet Invicta's guide is focused only on economy, and while excellent, is not at all helpful to those who have never experienced the joy of regular M2TW autoresolve (you are correct regarding infantry in M2TW, but AR was rebalanced for Stainless Steel and KGCM with the hotseat patch. So you are both right in essence) or had their entire army wiped out by 3 GB units and a few HAs in fought battles.

Cheers, We are in agreement to almost everything it seem (as usual i do believe)

I have a modded Enchanted that is pretty balanced that i can provide that we use a lot. Fixing the mentioned problems with Enchanted, all the factions have very different flavors and its quite fun, but very different not only to no spies or siege engines! This would be the best mod to stary with imho but:

Personally, id go with Kings of Rivers and hills. You dont have to modify it anything in order for it to be playable and work long term ( only one thing: Greyjoy cannot be allowed to make longships anywhere but the isles unless its an upgraded port )

Restricting the map ( no playing/attacking the North possibly dorne as well) Greatly improves the pace of the hotseat and i sincerely recommend that. The north is boring to play imho and are so bloody far from everything.

Lastly, Westeros AR is strange, Usually when you win battles you take almost NO losses assuming its not a very close call or a siege.
Literally 4k vs 4k (2 armies vs 2 armies somewhat same strength or clearly stronger) battles will often have 2k losses for defeated and about 200 losses total for the victor.

Actually, both guides, as I have come to learn, have little use in a Westeros hotseat. There's no economy to worry about, spies and siege engines nonexistant, and the only real strategy is - well, I'm not telling

Myths tips are gold, the explanations for exploits and rules offer great insight into hotseating albeit some of it may be a bit dated.
(spies, spies opening gates everywhere xD Reloading allowed as standard )

merely the economy is "pointless" for westeros, unless you count reading about other mods, spies, catas, jihad/crusade whom have nothing at all to do with westeros