The Lurker Below 19:03 02-15-2013
So my father in law keeps wanting me to post some Twitter question for thousands of followers. I know nothing of Twitter. I think what he really needs is for somebody like Barak Obama to post this, I heard that guy has some Twitter followers. Fortunately after asking the question he required no response on my part. I'll ask his question here:
How does Ben Bernanke go free while Bernie Madoff goes to jail?
Proletariat 00:53 02-16-2013
Elizabeth Warren seemed to be wondering similar things as your father in law, Lurker. Well, this was about too big to fail banks tho
Earlier today..
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Fisherking 08:09 02-16-2013
Too big to fail, too big to jail.
Did you think politicians couldn’t be corrupt?
Federal Prosecutors, Department of Justice, Executive branch…
Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube:
It blows my mind that people think Judges, Senators, and Congressmen are above corruption..
Literally no one I know thinks that
Fisherking 21:11 02-17-2013
Originally Posted by Strike For The South:
Literally no one I know thinks that
I am sure he is correct. He is from the Peoples Democratic Republic of Oregon. They are indoctrinated and educated to think that way.
He risks losing his party credentials speaking out like that.
HopAlongBunny 08:56 02-18-2013
What can you do about political corruption; the people with the power to change the system are the very beneficiaries of it.
Fisherking 10:15 02-18-2013
Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube:
Answer that question and we can all go home.
You want to fix it?
Then it is not go home and watch the news on TV so they can feed you more bull. Get out and make some noise.
You need something like an Occupy Washington Movement representing all the political views. People need to make common cause against this kind of thing.
Stop thinking Political Party and start thinking of how corrupt or elected representation has become, and that is from the President down to the city counsel.
The left is unhappy with what Obama is doing but they keep quiet because he is their man. The right disliked what Bush did but kept quiet because he was their man.
It is not the Party people! It is the politicians! You know they lie and cheat, call them on it, your party or not!
Tweet it, Facebook it, what ever. Maybe something will stick and people will open their eyes.
Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube:
Ya'll ain't ready for my answer. And its not a good answer anyway.
I don't know man, I am starting to think that tipping over ice cream trucks is the only way to get our country back.
Ironside 11:07 02-18-2013
Originally Posted by HopAlongBunny:
What can you do about political corruption; the people with the power to change the system are the very beneficiaries of it.
As Fisherking was into. Find one of the most visibly corrupted one and hunt him down until resignation or prison. Then proceed doing that to a few more, until they fear the people enough to shapen up. The normal people might only have the power to take down the bad leaders, so it's sorely needed to be used on those leaders that has what both sides counts as unacceptable behavior.
Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name:
I don't know man, I am starting to think that tipping over ice cream trucks is the only way to get our country back.
Careful with that, fanatics are thriving on chaos. That's why revolutions often devours it's children.
Oh noes! It turns out that all that stuff about America and the West being the greatest expression of humanity was just self serving bull@#&*! My world view is in tatters.
Seeing the org turning from flag waving neo con central to bitter Marxist is the only thing that brings me any solace from the grimness out there.
Originally Posted by Fisherking:
You want to fix it?
Then it is not go home and watch the news on TV so they can feed you more bull. Get out and make some noise.
You need something like an Occupy Washington Movement representing all the political views. People need to make common cause against this kind of thing.
Stop thinking Political Party and start thinking of how corrupt or elected representation has become, and that is from the President down to the city counsel.
The left is unhappy with what Obama is doing but they keep quiet because he is their man. The right disliked what Bush did but kept quiet because he was their man.
It is not the Party people! It is the politicians! You know they lie and cheat, call them on it, your party or not!
Tweet it, Facebook it, what ever. Maybe something will stick and people will open their eyes.
Or just, you know, stand for election. The problem with politics is that normal citizens have ceased to take an interest in it, leaving it to the cranks and loons.
Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla:
Or just, you know, stand for election. The problem with politics is that normal citizens have ceased to take an interest in it, leaving it to the cranks and loons.
The only problem is you can't get elected unless you belong to one of the two big parties. They have all the money, the connections, and the name recognition. And then if you do belong to one of the two parties, you have to appeal to the party establishment in order to get on the ballot.
Originally Posted by Tuuvi:
The only problem is you can't get elected unless you belong to one of the two big parties. They have all the money, the connections, and the name recognition. And then if you do belong to one of the two parties, you have to appeal to the party establishment in order to get on the ballot.
Find oil in your back garden, you will end up getting elected.
Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube:
Nay, your back garden will simply be annexed by the government and sold to the lowest bidder.
What they will do is declare your neighbourhood as a hazardous living area, forcing everyone to be relocated due to "health and safety" concerns, with just above market value for the properties. Then they will simply "annex it" then sell it to the American-owned Beyond Petroleum for less than the market value after some 'intense' lobbying.
There are actually rules here regarding this. In the area where I live some villages are sitting on coal deposits and this means they have to make room for the common good. It's regulated by law and what basically happens is that the people who live there get ample warning and the coal company has to buy their houses at market value or something, then a new village place is destined somewhere away from the coal deposit and citizens can build themselves a new village there. Of course it never works as optimal as it sounds and apart from complaints about the lost emotional values and village spirit, there are financial issues where people claim the money they get is not enough etc.
In the end however, the largest excavators in the world are going to munch their way through the grounds of the former village.
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I don't think oil is extracted in the same way, but at least here we have laws which say what happens in case someone lives on a property with resources that can be exploited for the good of the whole country.
Yeah, my point was just that Germany is more awesome and has the biggest diggers in the world.
The United States is the same as any superpower ever was and is the same as any nation state would be if given the chance
This whole democracy thing gives us a chance to temper this but that's really the best we can hope for.
HopAlongBunny 21:21 02-22-2013
The digger is similar to what we use here in the Tar sands. If you follow the debate...the claim is...we are constructing the ultimate doomsday device!
Burn baby burn!
That's correct, and just like all the others it will crumble one day due to internal greed and power struggles.
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