A Period of Calm between Israel and the Palestinians - Some graphs

[Husar]

I'd say that 1918 was a long time ago. The current cease-fire was broken by Hamas (not sure about that one really) day one

The whole point was that they fired on day -1 since the ceasefire wasn't effective immediately so what you say is wrong and it seems you didn't understand the point Seamus made.

It's a ceasefire until an Israeli dies, then it's a start of hostilities due to the continued use of terror tactics by the Hamas government.

That seems to be how it works, but I can't say anything against it as that would make me an antisemite, especially with my passport.
It's only okay if I let them use my passport to go and murder preventatively remove iranian scientists.

[Fragony]

The whole point was that they fired on day -1 since the ceasefire wasn't effective immediately so what you say is wrong

Nope. Not claiming Hamas did it though, I don't know who did

[Hax]

I'd say that 1918 was a long time ago

..you mean 48, right?

But it still wasn't Israel that broke the truce

Forcing an enemy into breaking a truce, well, y'know. It's not that clear-cut, especially when it comes to this particular situation. Economically and politically, Gaza cannot properly function, at least not with the current blockade.

[Fragony]

There is a blockade because it's in Hamas charters to destroy the Israeli state, the second-fattest people have hardly anything to complain about because offthe billions of aid they get, despite the fact that they must kill the jews wherever they find them they are treated pretty good I'd say. They even got their own wall to wail at. Fuck'em.

[Hax]

Yeah, Fragony, whatever you say.

[Fragony]

Yeah, Fragony, whatever you say.

Yeahyeah, want to see the Hamas charters, or what they say on Palestinian tv ad teach in schools with EU money, Morsi is on it by the way yay arab spring. Ask and I'll deliver.

[Hax]

I've never seen you deliver jack squat.

The thing is that you're not even remotely interested in considering statements that might suggest a different perception on events. This is a sad trait that I often also witness in religious extremists, who either disqualify anything they disagree with as a conspiracy, or otherwise an attack on their religion and as such, not worth considering.

Yes, I know the Hamas charter. I can also read it in its original language, which I suppose is something you can't. That still has nothing to do with the actual events on the ground occuring right now. You're living in a sad fantasy world if you honestly believe that whatever is happening down there is due to a dated manuscript that the members themselves don't even believe in anymore and that whatever is happening to civilians that risk their lives trying to make a living deserve what is happening to them.