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    Ugh, not again, You know what I say Europe were better conquerors, America were better power players, can we call this pointless and move on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube View Post
    My ultimate point was that you Europeans should learn to get along, and quickly adopt a stronger and more unified federal structure. Your failure to do so as a continent is your legacy of failure--and your brutal methods for attempting to gain the upper hand over eachother (which is all that your Imperialistic Conquests ever were) don't amount to a legacy of military success at all in the big picture.
    Huh, I dont think anyone in history has ever done that, even america's "sucess" is a direct result of constant attempts to gain the upper hand actually succeeding; Britain's sucess in gaining the upper hand over France and spain, the colonist's success in gaining the upper hand over Britain, The USA's success in gaining the upper hand over Mexico, the Unionists sucess in gaining the upper hand over the confederates, America getting the upper hand over Europe, America gaining the upper hand over Russia to finally become on top.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube View Post
    They didn't succeed at all! Many of your former colonial conquests are stronger than the nations they came from. In attempting to exploit the world to gain that upper hand, they sowed the seeds of their own destruction, and now Europe's only hope on the world stage is peaceful unification. Why the USA's legacy is more successful than yours is discernable on a map, for the same reason Russia's is: A whole lot of space where people used to live, but they all died or assimilated. Most of America is still just empty space waiting to be populated by the next generations. That is an unequivocal success, even if it was gotten in a horrible way (and it was--the US Government's treatment of the Natives should go down in history as something every bit as bad as the holocaust). Europe, due to a complete lack of success in gaining the upper hand over eachother, now finds itself faced with having to do something that's never been done: Peaceful Unification of an entire Continent. In the end, after all, Europeans share more in common with eachother than they do with anybody else--including Americans.
    I dont think I said they did succeed, I said you succeeded. The USA's success is a result of it's own attempts to gain the upper hand over it's neighbours, China's success was due to the same, Russia too, there is no precident of spontanious peaceful unification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube View Post
    My ultimate point was that you Europeans should learn to get along, and quickly adopt a stronger and more unified federal structure. Your failure to do so as a continent is your legacy of failure--and your brutal methods for attempting to gain the upper hand over eachother (which is all that your Imperialistic Conquests ever were) don't amount to a legacy of military success at all in the big picture.
    Europe is a continent only on a map, it's no entity.

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    Europe is a continent only on a map
    You consider yourself a Eurasian?
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    You consider yourself a Eurasian?
    Eastasian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    You consider yourself a Eurasian?
    I am Dutch. The Netherlands is a country on the continent of Europe, that's all.

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    Europe isn't a real continent. It's a political area rather than a geographical one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho View Post
    Europe isn't a real continent. It's a political area rather than a geographical one.
    So true.

    Dear Americans, we are not like you, there is no Europe. France still has nukes aimed at every major city in Germany England and the Neds ffs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    So true.

    Dear Americans, we are not like you, there is no Europe. France still has nukes aimed at every major city in Germany England and the Neds ffs
    That's got to be a funny attempt to undermine the Franco-German friendship. First of all what does "aimed at" mean concerning nukes? Was the mouse pointer of the controller found hovering over Germany while he was on the toilet or was that just the flight data they entered sometime during the cold war and just never changed due to a lack of new threats? And are they aimed there to destroy Germany or to stop a Russian invasion? Because, you know, pretty much everyone had nukes "aimed at" Germany during the cold war...
    You say that as though France still thinks Germany wants to invade it but that's pure europhobic hysteria.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube View Post
    My ultimate point was that you Europeans should learn to get along, and quickly adopt a stronger and more unified federal structure. Your failure to do so as a continent is your legacy of failure--and your brutal methods for attempting to gain the upper hand over eachother (which is all that your Imperialistic Conquests ever were) don't amount to a legacy of military success at all in the big picture.
    Eh? There is this new idea called the treaty of Rome. The aim is to get some kind of European union.. It's quite a new project, pie in the sky, so you probably haven't heard of it. Hopefully it will stop the dozens of European wars we've had in the last 100 years.
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