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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    I find it upsetting that this is seen as acceptable, mainstream thought amongst certain elements on the left.

    Just.... no.

    We are supposed to be talking about values or ideals here... instead you churn out a list that is half antiquated/irrelevant prejudices, and half political/policy failings (as opposed to the ideals themselves).

    I mean, "Right = Racial Superiority"?! Cool story bro... the Right advocates racial superiority in the same way that the Left advocates the extermination/subjugation of anti-revolutionary classes ala Marx's instructions.

    "Economic Superiority"? No, that is not an ideal of the Right, whether we are talking neo-con or far-right. The far-right is essentially left-leaning on economic issues, and the neo-cons value equality of opportunity in terms of accumulating wealth. The economic reality of such an approach is a separate matter from the values themselves.

    The Right advocates national sovereignty, not superiority, and it is largely secular so no religious superiority. If there is a mysoginist element in the Right it is fringe, and as I have said in a recent thread, supporting traditional famillies is not a left-right issue, at least not as far as anyone anywhere mainstream on the spectrum is concerned.

    You have compeletely failed to grasp the difference between the Right's ideals, and what you see as the outcomes of its policies. At least I hope you have, if you actually think your average Tory voter values economic inequality in and of itself, then I don't know what to say to you.

    And for what it's worth, I don't even identify with the Right in any of its forms. But you have to try to understand peoples' beliefs, and not be blindly partizan.
    This is what I wanted to say. I live in a heavily conservative state, and while there are nutjobs out there there's also plenty of people on the right that hold reasonable, nuanced opinions and that value liberty and equality just as much as the left does. Those on the right just have different ideas about what liberty and equality entails. It's not fair to dismiss the other side of the political spectrum as being wholly negative.

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    The "right" is just the powers that be, the status quo, those who know which side their breads buttered.

    When things are going generally well, they say they deserve their station in life because they are doing such good job. When things go badly they blame it all on those scruffy poor people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho View Post
    The "right" is just the powers that be, the status quo, those who know which side their breads buttered.
    You can't be so autistic as to define everybody else in relation to your own beliefs. The current establishment might be right-wing in relation to your personal beliefs, but most people would consider the mainstream parties to be fairly centrist.
    At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    You can't be so autistic as to define everybody else in relation to your own beliefs. The current establishment might be right-wing in relation to your personal beliefs, but most people would consider the mainstream parties to be fairly centrist.
    The mainstream of our culture's politics is, by definition, going to be "cebntrist".

    Politics is the study of power relationships. It is all about the power relations between us and others. You are in some fantasy of conservative thought where right and left are these pure notions, elements that were created along with hydrogen and carbon.
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