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    They don't want to kill eachother. Surely you don't believe that?
    I judge them by what they do. They do it a lot and they do it well.

    I'm not qualified to tell you what to believe, but in my opinion the Christian thing would be to wish an end to the fighitng above all else, and not the victory of a certain group over the other.
    Not at the expense of Christians being subjugated by the islamists.

    How much do you even know about Syrian christians? Do you feel for them because they suffer, or do you feel for them because they provide you an excuse to root for the fascist?
    Middle Eastern Christians are my people, as in I'm descended from that group. This is personal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube View Post
    By that logic, we love killing eachother too. Or have you forgotten the staggering statistics from our Civil War? You're not stupid, man. I know that you know that people at war usually don't want to be at war.
    Let's not mix wars between the governments into this.


    Islamists who are entirely our fault. We created them, armed them, funded them, and over the decades since have given them plenty of target practice.
    Precisely. No reason to help them any further.

    Its good to respect your heritage, but you should take advantage of the broader scope you have available to you as compared to your relatives in the middle-east. They know only that they are in a war. You, on the other hand, are capable of seeing the big picture if you want to.
    Which is why I say: screw the Sunnis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube View Post
    Nothing for it I guess.
    Do not despair. You're still very young and I understand your drive to be Don Quixote. Give it a decade, or maybe a decade and a half, then we'll see if your perspective changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rvg View Post
    Middle Eastern Christians are my people, as in I'm descended from that group. This is personal.
    Unless you're an Assyrian yourself, they aren't the Eastern Orthodox Christians are a splinter group who had little to do with the Latin West or Even the Greek Orthodox until relatively recently.

    Your religion would be only slightly closer to them than to Islam itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    Unless you're an Assyrian yourself, they aren't Te Eastern Orthodox Christians are a splinter group who had little to do with the Latin West or Even the Greek Orthodox until relatively recently.

    Your religion would be only slightly closer to them than to Islam itself.
    Brilliant deduction. I am in fact Assyrian.
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    This explains so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rvg View Post
    Brilliant deduction. I am in fact Assyrian.
    Well, I did think you might be.

    Well, OK - I can appreciate your viewpoint but I still think you're wrong.

    In the long term a pluralist society will benefit Christians accross the Middle East - currently the dictators uses them as a scapegoat for the majority to vent on whilst protecting them from major harm, and keeping both groups loyal as a result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    In the long term a pluralist society will benefit Christians accross the Middle East
    True, but that pluralism can only be achieved under a very narrow set of conditions. Lebanon can achieve that balance of power because it has no clear religious majority.

    currently the dictators uses them as a scapegoat for the majority to vent on whilst protecting them from major harm, and keeping both groups loyal as a result.
    Syria is different because a small minority is in power. That minority has to band together with other minorities in order to oppose the clear majority.

    Also, take a look at Iraq: the oppressed Shia majority was liberated and almost immediately started working towards becoming the oppressive Shia majority.

    Even if you take some remote, exotic pseudo-democracy like the Maldives: it does have a representative government and all, but it's still extremely repressive when it comes to freedom of religion: every citizen is required by law to be a Sunni Muslim. That's not very pluralistic.
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    New video of beheading, I hear Dutch with a Flemish accent and a bit of what's probably Wallonian French. Never been happy with Hezbollah but if they shoot homegrown scum Salaam mia muca's. Should they come back they will probably get agression surpressing therapy. Lefties getting so wet with multicultural desire that they slip of their chair, no, it is not an enrichment to our culture, capice? When will islamphiles understand that they simply don't get it? No you idiots islam is NOT a religion of peace. Muslim and Islam are not the same thing silly gutmensch

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