Then legalize same sex marriage, dummy

[Major Robert Dump]

Rhyfelwyr I hope you understand that I am being a smart ass and not trying to pick a fight with you. But "there are too many single parent households" and "we need a stable tax base" covers much of the family/social aspect of my subsequent posts. A same sex couple raising kids yet not recognized as a legal couple and qualifies as a single parent household since both parties cannot legally adopt the child unless they are married. Incidentally, the additional able bodied adult in the house will, however, reduce their eligibility for public assistance. This is funny, because it is typically a way to get unwed parents to marry, and a way to keep a woman from breeding with multiple partners with no intent of staying with any, it is a way to keep people from "shacking up" with children if they are not also going to marry..... and here we have people who are actually trying to get married and stabilize a home and they are rejected. Funny

I read that there are 40,000 kids in California in same sex parental homes. That is just in California. Banning same sex marriage seems to be working at getting same sex couples not to raise kids. OH WAIT......

Yes there is red tape on adoption. But adoption from an agency IS NOT the only mechanism for same sex couples to raise kids. There are plenty of people who try heterosexuality, have kids, and then "go gay" mid life. I -- just me -- know a dozen people that fit this description, and they all have kids, and they all now have same sex partners. In addition to kids from previous marriages, there is also the significant number (20 percentiles??) of grandparents/siblings etc becoming legal guardians of children. If a parent/brother/aunt has the ability and desire to raise a related child and they happen to be homosexual, it is patently unfair that they are willing to sacrifice themselves to raise kids that are not theirs, yet they cannot even get married to their same sex partner to make the child rearing easier.

The arguments that two dads or two moms cannot provide guidance to a child of the opposite sex are untrue. There are actually people out there arguing that My Two Dads will not be able to get a teenage girl through her first period, or that My Two Moms will not be able to guide their son through a bullying situation. Seriously? Have no single parents ever done this? and please do not say that single parents get remarried, because that is patently false, and in the event that he/she does remarry the chances that it will be in time to contribute to the social adjustment of the child are completely based on situation and not some written rule that can be measured or used for statistics.

It also ignores the fact that hetero parents can be terrible parents, can be abusive, can be absent even in marriage, all of which are things that will happen with gay couples as well. It is called being human. Deal.

Do I want to explain to my kids about the two men kissing in public, or his friend with two moms? No more or less than I want to explain intercourse, how the Senate works or why his/her mom is half my age. I'm a grown up, I will figure it out.

We are not pioneers and villagers fighting a 50% birth mortality rate anymore. There is no race to out populate the enemy, or to build a big tribe so we can take down the saber tooth. We can practically engineer our own babies. The traditional purpose of marriage is irrelevant in this industrialized country, and that role needs to evolve. Few reasons that anyone gives in opposition to gay marriage is a problem that is exclusive to same sex couples, and the reasons that are exclusive go back to the "eeeew gross" and the religious camps.

People are doing it. They live together in same sex partnerships for decades. They will continue to do it, no matter how much hate and rage and politics keeps them down, and eventually it will be legal, like we said all along, just like so many other things involving equal rights and people just wanting to live and let live. And in 30 years, our kids will think we were monsters and dinosaurs, and wonder what the big deal was.

Party of small government my ass