I apologize to everyone.

[Greyblades]

Ah... Sometimes I forget I'm not only talking to americans and clueless north west europeans. When I said asia I mean eastern Asia: China, Korea, Japan.

[Papewaio]

Ah... Sometimes I forget I'm not only talking to americans and clueless north west europeans. When I said asia I mean eastern Asia: China, Korea, Japan.

North Korea certainly is medieval in its attitude.

China really isn't following a European Enlightenment or UK Westminister program to bootstrap itself. It has many issues to overcome from European colonialism.

Japan and South Korea are hardly basket case economies. Yes Japan seems to have peaked... It has an aging population and some of the longest lived people to look after... A cautionary tale for other economies.

South Korea has a lot of pros and cons. One of the obvious problems is North Korea. The less known one is that it is essentially a corporate run state.

[Fragony]

Maybe helpfull (and where your map with no science backing it whatsoever comes from Horetore)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_...lth_of_Nations

[HoreTore]

Maybe helpfull (and where your map with no science backing it whatsoever comes from Horetore)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_...lth_of_Nations

This is exactly what I mean.

Lynn has been discredited by just about everyone. He's a hack.

[Fragony]

This is exactly what I mean.

Lynn has been discredited by just about everyone. He's a hack.

No he wasn't, can't just decide things like that, it really has to be true; classical leftist mistake.

[HoreTore]

No he wasn't, can't just decide things like that, it really has to be true; classical leftist mistake.

You're using discredited science to back up your claim. Who's "just deciding things" now, eh?

Lynn is accused of both confirmation bias and methodological errors. In scientific terms, that's a death sentence. I can understand that you desperately want such things to be true, as it would fit your political views perfectly. Sadly, there is no science to back it up.

Kinda like how Stalin went with Lamarckism, another discredited theory, because it fit with his political aims. Lamarck was a hack, just as Lynn is.

EDIT: your wiki article contains a quote which sums up the scientific community's view on Lynn pretty well:

"(the book's) sweeping conclusions based on relatively weak statistical evidence and dubious presumptions seem misguided at best and quite dangerous if taken seriously. It is therefore difficult to find much to recommend in this book."

[Fragony]

You're using discredited science to back up your claim. Who's "just deciding things" now, eh?

Lynn is accused of both confirmation bias and methodological errors. In scientific terms, that's a death sentence. I can understand that you desperately want such things to be true, as it would fit your political views perfectly. Sadly, there is no science to back it up.

Kinda like how Stalin went with Lamarckism, another discredited theory, because it fit with his political aims. Lamarck was a hack, just as Lynn is.

Of course he is accused of both comfirmation errors and methodological errors, that's normal, did you ever spend a day in university. Where they have occured isn't left out, it is perfectly obvious to the writers that their calculations aren't set in stone but merely a statistical probability

[HopAlongBunny]

To paraphrase a psyc prof I had: IQ tests accurately and reliably measure how well people score on IQ tests. So the question becomes what exactly does that prove?