So I'm moving to the Netherlands (potentially)...

[Hax]

Fragony, I don't think you studied in Leiden, now did you?

Additionally, Rotterdam-Leiden is still a good 60 minutes, if not more.

[Fragony]

Fragony, I don't think you studied in Leiden, now did you?

Additionally, Rotterdam-Leiden is still a good 60 minutes, if not more.

For a while. It's a highly reknowned university but Leiden itself is boring. Rotterdam is bursting with life, it's the closest to a real city we got to offer, is full of fellow expats, and it will take half an hour or so to get to Leiden, it took me 60 minutes from Amersfoort. In Leiden Tib's will probably feel lost and lonely, so I really recommend Rotterdam instead. It's also there where the kind of jobs he's looking for are (more in The Hague but The Hague is really close)

Edit: forget about learning Dutch Tib's, you won't need to be able to. Put your efforts in German and French, it might be assumed that you speak it and just get a text in it.

[tibilicus]

Rotterdam is also a very good university but I still feel Leiden has a lot going for it. As mentioned, Leiden's Institute for Public Policy is based in Den Haag so if I didn't live there I would still be commuting into Den Haag on a daily basis. Apparently quite a few Leiden students actually get housing in Den Haag as there's more of it going around. I may accept an offer from Leiden but apply for something in Rotterdam too. I guess its a question of whether I want to be around other students or around more expats. Den Haag looks like a cool city though. It's surprising because whenever anyone talks about the Netherlands they only mention Amsterdam. So many other nice places people just don't bother to go...

[Fragony]

Den Haag is a nice town. It's also close to Leiden. It's your mental wellbeing that I am concerned with, I don't think you will be happy in Leiden. It's a small town without anything to do. I am just talking about housing, if you take the train to Leiden it's a minutes walk to the university from the station, You will also get there in no time from Den Haag but Rotterdam is a much cooler city to live, see it as a pocket-Manhattan

[tibilicus]

How long is the train from Rotterdam to Den Haag? Is housing not too difficult to get there?

[Tellos Athenaios]

How long is the train from Rotterdam to Den Haag? Is housing not too difficult to get there?

You might want to bookmark this public transport route planning site: http://9292.nl/en#

[Fragony]

How long is the train from Rotterdam to Den Haag? Is housing not too difficult to get there?

Housing is difficult everywhere, always expect to pay seemingly unreasonably much money, that's the cost of living here, housing in the Netherlands is extremily expensive, I can easily ask for 1000 a month for my pretty small appartment and I don't exactly live in a hotspot of activity, you would do well making that your first priority. But you ge something back, Leiden Rotterdam and The Hague are all really close to eachother. Delft is also close. Leiden rotterdam and Delft are all in the top 50 of best universities of the world and within a 30 minute radius of eachother at most. You can follow courses in any of them at will if you want, if you want to do a course in Amsteram feel free to do so, all it takes is a yearly fee and you can study whatever you fancy wherever you fancy, you are not bound to an university

[Hax]

Fragony, consult the damn site of the OV. It takes you over an hour to get from Rotterdam to Leiden.