responding to common objections to bible

[total relism]

I was going to reply again, but then I read:




and decided some people are just too dumb and consistently illogical that it's a waste of precious time.

EDIT: Just something I'll do for my own research, and maybe you guys can point me in the right direction: Is there any provable historical supernatural phenomenon that is not inside a religious book, and cannot be explained or theorized upon by use of science, physics and logic, and can easily be explained by any religion?

you said
" consistently illogical that it's a waste of precious time."

yet you want evidence for christian/god [ i agree] to believe in it, yet none for your faith? than call me the illogical one. reasons like these i think you know would not go well in a debate, the reason you refuse me.

For all the abuse that total relism gets, the stuff some other people are coming up with here is comedy gold.

Everybody is rubbishing his (admittedly rubbish) sources, and then with a straight face they come out and quote Landover Baptist Church as a reliable source on Christian doctrine.

For those not aware, Landover Baptist Church is a troll website parodying hardcore Evangelical Protestants.

But don't let me get in the way of the circle-jerk...

just wondering witch of my sources do you see as rubbish in regards to the topic? and why?.

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Still, the place of women in the middle Age by the church is developed by the theologian Thomas Aquinas: males are the perfect form and female children are simply defective males. Or Read St Augustin.

could you start supporting any of you claims? also woman in bible is topic i will do in future. I recemend diversifying your reading, to not just what you want to hear.
http://www.amazon.com/Is-God-Moral-M.../dp/0801072751
http://www.amazon.com/God-Behaving-B.../dp/0830838260

“The fact that you couldn't tell that it was a rather outrageous parody site sums up how much you know about Christian doctrine.” I know enough of the “Christian” doctrine to know that there is more than one. You, on contrary, seem to think there is only one. The place of women in the history of the multiple aspect of this generic religious movement can be easily seen, without even a careful and long attention.
And to be really open about it, the stupidity of this text that matched what I can watch on Evangelist TV (the rare time when I by chance listen -shortly-) so I didn't doubt it was an authentic site, a little bit like the one from the guy who wanted to burn some samples of the Koran. This will teach me a lesson.

“btw you also never delived when I asked you for those quotes earlier. You seemed quite confident with the rhetoric but if this is the quality of your sources I think it was a bit misplaced.” I am confident as I studied Religions. I didn’t felt the need to answer as, as I said before, you do not need careful, long and painful studies to acknowledge the place of the women in societies under “Christian” rules, whatever the “doctrine” says. The opinion and statement of the Religious Politicians as Tertullien (using St Paul), St Augustin (Who has a woman turns away from God) and Thomas Aquinos do not need vast exegeses. Remember Eve…
She was the temptation to which the man who finds it difficult to resist. She, herself, is tempted by the devil in the form of snake, serpent associated with sex and demonized by the Church. The woman is worthy of hell for the Church that does not forgive her to succumb to the temptation of the forbidden fruit consumption and so to have result in loss of the garden of Eden.

You want reference: In French
« saint Paul, le théologien favori du Vatican (surtout aujourd'hui ), d'écrire que « la femme est un corps sans tête », et à saint Jérôme de dire que « la volupté avec une femme est un crime à classer juste après l'homicide ». Même au cours du XIXe siècle, pourtant plus éclairé, le prêtre catholique Lamennais a affirmé que « la femme est une statue vivante de la stupidité parce qu'en la faisant d'un reste de limon, Dieu en a oublié l'intelligence »
St Jerome : Rien n'est plus infâme que le mari qui aime sa femme comme une maîtresse : il commet le péché d'adultère »
In English:
Saint Paul, favorite theologian of the Vatican (especially today), to write that "the woman is a body without a head", and St. Jerome said that ' the voluptuousness with a woman is a crime to classify just after the killing. Even during the 19th century, yet more enlightened, the Catholic priest Lamennais stated that "the woman is a living statue of stupidity because by of a rest of silt, God have forgotten intelligence". St Jerome: nothing is more infamous than the husband who loves his wife as a mistress: he commits the sin of adultery. Women take from God the love of her husband…

Now, you can say that these people who spoke and wrote Latin, and most of them Greek, were not as good as you are to define the real meaning of Christianity…
You might be right.
But the fact is the reason why during the Council of Trent the Catholic Dogma reinforced and imposed the Single Status of the priests, the fact that Women couldn’t give the Holly Sacraments and couldn’t be priest was based on their opinion and their analyse on the texts they were able (most of them) to read in the original copy in Greek or Latin.

We do know now that the Eve and the Snake story is a copy of a Sumerian Legend, Enki and Ninhursag, 1500 before the Bible. We do know now that Yahweh’s actions looked very similar to the one of the Goddess Ninhursag.
From the Encyclopedia Encarta, used by thousands students in France:
"The biblical account of the creation of Adam and Eve differs only in a few details of many other similar myths of the ancient Middle East and elsewhere. Similar themes also appear in ancient Mesopotamian sources such as the epic of Gilgamesh, dating from about 1800-1700 BC.”

But they didn't.

you claim to have studied "religion" but even if true, what you got was a liberal atheist teaching clearly, not biblical or based on true history. I love claims like these

"aint Paul, favorite theologian of the Vatican (especially today), to write that "the woman is a body without a head","

and

"copy of a Sumerian Legend, Enki and Ninhursag, 1500 before the Bible. We do know now that Yahweh’s actions looked very similar to the one of the Goddess Ninhursag.
From the Encyclopedia Encarta, used by thousands students in France:
"The biblical account of the creation of Adam and Eve differs only in a few details of many other similar myths of the ancient Middle East and elsewhere. Similar themes also appear in ancient Mesopotamian sources such as the epic of Gilgamesh, dating from about 1800-1700 BC.”


The simple believes every word: but the prudent man looks well to his going.
Proverbs -14.15

The first to present his case seems right,
till another comes forward and questions him -Proverbs 18.17


the rest is not supported by original sources and shows you have been clearly taught wrong, but i have know decided to do another thread on the supposed biblical parallel with other ane stories.

TR question is about the Bible. If the Bible appears to be more and more as a collection of Myths and Legends (and it is more and more likely) for the Mesopotamian Region and surroundings, with so-called Prophets who just put together a digest of all they could find in order to sustain their own beliefs, the question of the legitimacy of the Religions derived from it is on the table.

The bases of the Bible are de facto Pagan Myths, as later the annexation of Pagan Myths of the Medieval Ages Europe will be added to the liturgy. Nothing wrong with that until you claim that was the words of a God.

i agree with the conclusions above 100%, i just disagree and will show future thread, that the claims are true.