Resting the green dragon/the dangers of radical environmentalism.

[total relism]

Fact 1: only an tiny amount of peer reviewed studies go against the consensus that global warming is primarily caused by man.
Fact 2: polls show that a clear majority of scientists, in the relevant areas, thinks global warming is primarily caused by man. And the polls also show that the scientists who actively publish are even more convinced.

Apparently you want all opinions to count as long as they have a fancy academic title. I would not expect a brain surgeon to know much about dentistry even though both the dentist and brain surgeon work somewhere on the human head.




That list does address all the stuff from the videos you posted. If you are capable of watching the videos in your OP then you should also be capable of watching and reading what is in my links. If you reject that then you are rejecting the scientific consensus. And then there is not much more to debate.


I did not watch the resisting the green dragon videos. The titles alone did not seem to address anything about global warming nor were the videos available for free. One thing is wasting time on the same old arguments, another thing is spending time and money on something that does not seem relevant to the debate.

But at least you come with some specific claims now. Of course I have to do the work with all my false info:

On Iris http://www.skepticalscience.com/lind...ion-part1.html

It is still getting warmer. http://www.skepticalscience.com/glob...ed-in-1998.htm






The five degree estimate is one of the higher estimates. But why not let Allen Myles speak for himself without being misrepresented by journalists: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...climate-change

David Rose (Daily Mail) is not a good source when to comes to climate science. Examples:


or http://www.skepticalscience.com/media_v_reality.html And I could find a lot more.

And using quotes from people who have no qualifications at all (Morano) or one who might have a fancy title like a PhD in Astrophysics (Whitehouse) but no actual research, is the usual appeal to authority.

fact one-already responded to many times
fact 2 this is what i want you to back up, you have claimed this many times, please show me list of scientist who would say as you claim. As i said is showed 31,000 and 1,000. Can you show me your list?

I fullt understand that they should be degree in area, that is why a certain well know list used to promote your belief is misleading as well. That me thinks is reason you wont post any list, as you already attacked my list for that. Notice my op did not say 31,000 phd qualified in area scientist. Simple fact is so far i showed 32,000 to your 0.



so on one side you admit to not watching the videos, than yet make the amazing claim your link [with false info] answered all on the links i provided that you did not watch lol. I will say the same to you, if you have time to read all your links you should do the same for mine. I like debates, you have any i will watch, as i said im busy at current time to see these links at the moment,unless you make a direct claim. Given you have not watched anything i posted and offered no direct claims, i see no reason to read.




thanks for admitting you lied about watching the videos on op that is not common online. Putting the green dragons fire out on global warming was the main one addressing global warming. I have no idea what your referring to with specific claim,iris.




link a little outdated,that is why my link had present graph. Also i think you missed meaning of article, you likely did not read but just goggled your webpage or you would have known what was meant by article. Also who said the earth is not curentley getting warmer?




thanks for links with Allen Myles, but even that does not change what he said or was responding to, it just put his other opinions in perspective. Not what was meant by the graph/new evidence. Did not watch video sorry. i think your asumtion that "PhD in Astrophysics (Whitehouse" has nothing to do with global warming is a large part of problem, radicals can only see humans as the cause of evil. Take the sun away, release all the c02 you want and see what happens.

Why do I feel like I'm talking to a small child here? You showed nothing of the kind. Your other posts do nothing to alter the fact that you misquoted another poster.

Ajax

as i showed my last response to you, you only think i did so ,when it was in fact you who did so to me, that is reason i wrote on it you wont be able to respond, and you cant as it shows you just did not read from beginning and only read one of my responses than created your own meaning, notice he has no problem understanding.


i will copy paste

nice editing, as i said, you only read part of my response [if any] than set up a strawman. The reason you see a problem is you did not read my other posts, he is fully right, it can be both good and bad as i even said oxygen could be as well on post 13. That is why what i said is important, i said when teaching climate change environmental issues, c02 is referred to as a pollutant, and any release of c02 as polluting the environment. This topic is on global warming false teaching etc not the importance of c02 and if that is taught separate of these issues.


so i ask again
multiple topics are brought up so i must respond to multiple topics. You claim i use "untrustworthy sources, poor logic, and misrepresentation of others' positions and statements" i wont wait for specific examples as you have shown unable to follow the same posts you criticize