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    Default Re: Resting the green dragon/the dangers of radical environmentalism.

    Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
    I disagree fully, we were talking on majority opinion, i was the one that originally said to you majority opinion does not=truth. You than claimed something like 97-99% of all scientist believe in man made global warming [as your reference claimed]. That is what i am replying to,that claim. That is why i said show me list of scientist, i showed 31,000 and over 1,000 on two lists, that reject. You cant show me your list. That you cant see the faulty logic/asumtions in your article i pointed out is not my fault.
    Fact 1: only an tiny amount of peer reviewed studies go against the consensus that global warming is primarily caused by man.
    Fact 2: polls show that a clear majority of scientists, in the relevant areas, thinks global warming is primarily caused by man. And the polls also show that the scientists who actively publish are even more convinced.

    Apparently you want all opinions to count as long as they have a fancy academic title. I would not expect a brain surgeon to know much about dentistry even though both the dentist and brain surgeon work somewhere on the human head.



    you gave me youtube videos and a website called http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php that has false info on front page. Not to mention you did not address anything specific besides that someone on other side was given death threats as well, as if that makes death threats towards global warming skeptics go away.
    That list does address all the stuff from the videos you posted. If you are capable of watching the videos in your OP then you should also be capable of watching and reading what is in my links. If you reject that then you are rejecting the scientific consensus. And then there is not much more to debate.

    would you mind giving some specific examples for me? you claim to have watched all the videos,could you give me some info on each that i cant find with a quick Google than? also i would love for you to tell me the reasons you reject/disagree with them. Starting say with video number one posted as you have said you watched them all lol.
    I did not watch the resisting the green dragon videos. The titles alone did not seem to address anything about global warming nor were the videos available for free. One thing is wasting time on the same old arguments, another thing is spending time and money on something that does not seem relevant to the debate.

    But at least you come with some specific claims now. Of course I have to do the work with all my false info:

    On Iris http://www.skepticalscience.com/lind...ion-part1.html

    No, the world ISN'T getting warmer (as you may have noticed)
    It is still getting warmer. http://www.skepticalscience.com/glob...ed-in-1998.htm

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    Last night Myles Allen, Oxford University’s Professor of Geosystem Science, said that until recently he believed the world might be on course for a catastrophic temperature rise of more than five degrees this century.
    But he now says: ‘The odds have come down,’ – adding that warming is likely to be significantly lower.
    Prof Allen says higher estimates are now ‘looking iffy’.
    The five degree estimate is one of the higher estimates. But why not let Allen Myles speak for himself without being misrepresented by journalists: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...climate-change

    David Rose (Daily Mail) is not a good source when to comes to climate science. Examples:


    or http://www.skepticalscience.com/media_v_reality.html And I could find a lot more.

    And using quotes from people who have no qualifications at all (Morano) or one who might have a fancy title like a PhD in Astrophysics (Whitehouse) but no actual research, is the usual appeal to authority.
    Last edited by CBR; 04-15-2013 at 16:54. Reason: Added video "Meet the Scientists"

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