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    Do you have any tips for doing research and finding information? I have access to article databases like Jstor, etc. but anytime I try to use them all I get is irrelevant stuff like "Sexuality among lower income Muslim men aged 18-35 in Southern Dagestan"

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    Articles are unlikely to be overviews of regions, as they are meant to communicate certain innovative but specified aspects of scientific research, at least in the humanities. I think you would be better of with books that give an overview of certain peoples or regions, discuss the economy and culture, and Strabo and Pliny of course. Also, wikipedia sometimes gets you started with basic literature.

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    almost every modern university or library has its catalogue online for research .. google for your local university or library and try to find it .. then search for keywords or lexica for the time period .. peace

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    I am a staunch supporter of the cause since I first downloaded the 0.8-thingy version of the game. EB 1.2 was the major joy for me- so, after nearly six and a half years, I say this: It can't take another 6 years, can it? So, I take my time, enjoy the mods for PanzerCorps in the meantime, look forward to Rome2, and will find EBII delivered at my doorstep in..say 2014- hell, why not? Around two years ago I was sure: this mod is dead!, but I kept checking every few months and lurked...the only problem I have is the Steam-version of MTW2. Those idiots from Sega and the Steam guys have intertwined two non-compatible launchers for "safety issues". It's been a year now that I keep mailing them complaints, but they don't give a hack and no-one seems to find a solution! (I bought the crappy MTW2 only for the future release of EBII!)
    So, I'll buy an online version of MTW2 the day EBII comes out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ailfertes View Post
    Articles are unlikely to be overviews of regions, as they are meant to communicate certain innovative but specified aspects of scientific research, at least in the humanities. I think you would be better of with books that give an overview of certain peoples or regions, discuss the economy and culture, and Strabo and Pliny of course. Also, wikipedia sometimes gets you started with basic literature.
    You may also toss Herodotus in there as well. He may not be as descriptive but there are some gems in the Histories on regions, especially those in the east.

    I'll take a little time to write one up, perhaps this weekend. Perhaps we should allocate some work around so we don't end up with 3 people writing a description of Attica? I could start a separate thread for this even and everyone can pick one province to start with and I could assign their name to it so we don't end up with duplicates. What do you guys think?

    EDIT: Also a question directed to VT Marvin. When you say North Africa do you mean everything west of Cyrenaica (ie the traditional province of Africa) or are you including Egypt and the Nubian/Aethiopian lands to the south?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brave Brave Sir Robin View Post
    EDIT: Also a question directed to VT Marvin. When you say North Africa do you mean everything west of Cyrenaica (ie the traditional province of Africa) or are you including Egypt and the Nubian/Aethiopian lands to the south?
    Good point, sorry, I will specify it now:

    We do have already: Kart-Hadast/Zeugei, Diospolis Megale/Thebais

    All other province descriptions on the African continent, i.e. Mauretania, Rus Lixus, Numidia Massaelii, Numidia, Maquom Hadesh, Numidia, Gaetulia, Muxsi, Tiskat, Byzakion, Phasania, Syrthim, Kyrenaia, Libye, Delta Neilou, Heptanomis, Oasis Megale, Triakontaschoinos, Kush, Erythraia and Di'amat need to be written yet.

    In any case, thank you all for your enthusiastic reception of our desperate attempt to outsource a part of our work!

    Looking forward to your contributions!

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    I'll create a separate thread if no one minds to tally these matters on the OP. Head over there and select a region/province to work on.
    Good idea!
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    Sounds like there is a lot of detail that was not in EB1 & sadly probably not needed as most people would have been happy basicly with EB1 on the M2TW engine . And now you are looking at RTW2 coming out before this and sorry to say the battles look amazing. It would be like playing MTW after RTW came out , just didn't happen for most people.

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    The aim of EB was to create an historically accurate depiction of nearer Eurasia and North Africa between 272BC and AD14. EBII was begun with the aim of improving on the historical accuracy and depth of EB. When we began working on EBII, RTW2 was no-where on the horizon. If people want the glamour, the graphics and the excitement of RTW2 then we encourage them to enjoy it, likewise we wish the best of luck to CA in developing the game. But for those of us working on EBII our aim was, and remains, to create an historically accurate modification.

    Yes, such an approach may make us look like anoraks/a group of very sad men, but consider that EB (which is a puddle compared to EBII) still commands a greater following than RTW, MTWII and possibly ETW. EBII, I have no doubt, will punch well above its weight.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rovert View Post
    Sounds like there is a lot of detail that was not in EB1 & sadly probably not needed as most people would have been happy basicly with EB1 on the M2TW engine . And now you are looking at RTW2 coming out before this and sorry to say the battles look amazing. It would be like playing MTW after RTW came out , just didn't happen for most people.
    Even if the battles look amazing I'm sure EB II will blow R2TW out of the water when it comes immersion and game play. The M2TW graphics still don't look that bad in my opinion. I think when it comes to improvements in graphics over time the law of diminishing returns applies; the difference in graphics between R2 and M2 won't be as great as the difference between MTW and RTW, especially when you consider the work put in by the EB artists, whose work usually looks much better than the vanilla product.

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    I can only agree with Tuuvi, also keep in mind that the weakpoint of M2TW(and ETW) graphics are the textures. Which at times are just awfully horrid. EB2 has all new textures and (as it seems) also adds a polygon here and there, resulting in a much better look. Just look at most major M2TW mods they all look much better than the original. EB2 will not look as flashy as R2TW but I think most EB fans consider graphics a secondary quality when it comes to games. And as I said before, free is much cheaper than 50 bucks plus maybe a new rig ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuuvi View Post
    Do you have any tips for doing research and finding information? I have access to article databases like Jstor, etc. but anytime I try to use them all I get is irrelevant stuff like "Sexuality among lower income Muslim men aged 18-35 in Southern Dagestan"
    In general, as Ailfertes states, the ancient sources, particularly Strabo and Pliny, are an excellent starting point. In terms of the Geographical data, these can be supplemented with modern climatological data, for which I usually start with wikipedia: obviously, it should be noted if there were major climatic shifts. For the historical section we are really after an overview of socio-political development in that specific region - again ancient sources are useful, and should be at least examined, but using a entry-level, more general, history to begin is great.

    If you have access to JSTOR, I would guess that you are either a secondary, tertiary or postgrad student. As such you may have access to such resources as Brill's New Pauly - which, usually, has accurate scholarly encyclopedia articles on a wide-range of subjects including regions.

    I hope this is helpful - and not overwhelming.
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    As Brave Sir Robin said we need to be careful we don't end up with people writing up on the same settlements, please let us know what settlements you are writing up on guys if you have already started so others dont waste their time duplicating your work....
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    I'll create a separate thread if no one minds to tally these matters on the OP. Head over there and select a region/province to work on.
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