Quote Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name View Post
I think the answer is already in what Monty said, "I can not consider these tribes to be organized into competing "states"."

Would you consider a gunfight between two rival families to be war?
Apart from the scale of it, I don't see much difference.

Neither do anthropologists, btw.

Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
Not quite what I meant: to call it "war" because men are attacking each other with tools (i.e. weaponry) is like calling these tribes 'states' because they have minimal leadership structures.

War manifests when there is armed conflict over some objective to be attained; ritualized battle for manhood rites and even more-or-less recreation is not really the same.
While one of the combat forms of the Yanomamo(the dualing) is ritualized(like the gun duel is), their other forms, like ambushes, is not.

And the object of it all is the most common one of all: resources.