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He who has bread has many problems;
He who has no bread has only one problem.
Byzantine Proverb
I think it's really best to wait. I want to play all the content they're making for it, and if Shogun II is any indication, buying stuff as it comes out (including the expansions) could easily add up to 100-150 dollars.
Not to mention the bugged-out state of most of these games on launch.
Well if no one is going to say it, I will!
Corinthian helmet for the Spartiates? Pah! XD
There's nothing outright wrong with Spartans wearing Corinthian helmets, depending on the time frame. It'd be better to have them in pilos, but it's not essential. It's daft enough having them in at all as any sort of playable faction in the game period, but i suppose they're cool, so they might as well be given shiny helmets as well.
Athenian Thureophoroi are a nice surprise.
Quo usque tandem abutere, Catilina, patientia nostra
I like the addition of those mercenary units, particularly those Thureophoroi as Catiline mentioned.
And looking forward to play with Athens.
Ja mata, TosaInu. You will forever be remembered.
Proud
Been to:
Swords Made of Letters - 1938. The war is looming in France - and Alexandre Reythier does not have much time left to protect his country. A novel set before the war.
A Painted Shield of Honour - 1313. Templar Knights in France are in grave danger. Can they be saved?
That is the point (my emphasis), Sparta just stopped using it, for it hindered their whole fighting tactics. These depended on the ability to follow orders and manouvering in the middle of battles...
Also recent reconstructions and surveying wounds have shown that frontally most of the damage in doric phalanxes came from above...
By the 3rd century BCE, of the Corinthian helmet, only the Italic variants were used and over the foreheads...
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I hope the next DLC will be about Thracian culture with the three kingdoms of Triballia, Getia and Cimmerian Bosphorus (Spartocids were Thracians) if I understand this format of DLC's for Rome 2 with 3 factions per culture. Other posibilities are: Helenistic culture with Pergamon, Seleucia and Baktria; Illyrian culture with Liburnia, Dalmatia and Dardania; Semitic culture with Judea, Nabatea and Palmyra etc.
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Can I get in on some of that gratuitous action?
I can hunt down the post if you want, but Jack Lusted essentially already replied to someone griping about this saying : This is just 1 unit. There are are many different spartan units with many different helmet types. Not just Corinthian helmets.Originally Posted by Arjos
I just typed helmeNts twice. wtf braint.
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It's the miracle of price discrimination. :P
If I could buy the game plus all of its future DLC and expansions for 60 bucks, I probably would.
Oh, sorry - I totally lost confidence in 1.0 total war games after Rome, Medieval, Empire and Napoleon, to the point where I didn't start reading about Shogun until a year after it came out. Was it really totally functional and ready to go? If the S2 launch was strong, then they definitely deserve kudos for that.
I still remember leaving my computer idling because of the load-siege bug in RTW.
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Well, other members can correct me if I'm forgetting something big, but the S2 launch seemed to be remarkably smooth by CA standards. Obviously, there's no way a game as complex as that is going to launch with no quirks or bugs, but I don't remember anything game-stopping or outright bang-my-head-on-the-desk annoying. Best launch of the series, I do believe. Point of fact, I think it's safe to say that the S2 1.0 was more stable and feature-complete than many of the other games were by final patch.
Hence my unrealistically high hopes for R2.
The judea faction would have to be an emerging faction of some sort then and would make the campaign events rather predestined. Also Palmyra is important mainly later on in history. The semitic faction most deserving a place would have been the kingdom of Lihyân, but that won't make it because it's rather unkown to most people. Of course I could be wrong on these points if the starting date is significantly different from the one of Rome I. But considering the inclusion of Epirus, I actually doubt that. As they'll make sure one could play the Pyrrhos' campaign.
And Iberian pack could be in the make as well. Iberian tribe, Celitberian tribe and the Lusotannan or some northern tribe could fit the bill.
Or a general celtic tribe pack with for example Belgae, Boii and Aedui/Maesilia/Celtiberian (Arevaci)...
Especially the latter could prove a popular expansion and easy one as well (research and reusing content).
Very excited about the Greek factions!
But I hoped that they put these three factions to the list of main factions not as a DLC. Because for example Sparta or Athens were important faction and played significant roles in that time and in my opinion it's not appropriate to sell it as a DLC.
He who has bread has many problems;
He who has no bread has only one problem.
Byzantine Proverb
The only significant thing that Athens and Sparta did in the time frame Rome II will cover is get conquered by Macedonia then Rome.
If you havin' skyrim problems I feel bad for you son.. I dodged 99 arrows but my knee took one.
VENI, VIDI, NATES CALCE CONCIDI
I came, I saw, I kicked ass
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Having played Europa Barbarorum, I really liked the concept of the Koinon Hellenon faction, representing the Chremodian Alliance between Sparta, Athens, and Rhodes that existed at the start date. Obviously, such a construct wouldn't realistically be expected to last for hundreds of years, expanding and conquering other lands. BUT, if the start date is appropriate, I'd like to see these 3 factions begin the game allied with each other. If nothing else, it should assist their survival as independent factions for a while.
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I would rather say it remained somewhat sparta than it became strong. The most thing they did was oppose the Macedonians and epirotes from time to time, but they did not conquer anything of importance. This is NOTHING compared to other (not yet included) prospect factions. CA made a good decision in making them a 3-Pack-faction DLC, it's quite appropriate.
"Who fights can lose, who doesn't fight has already lost."
- Pyrrhus of Epirus
"Durch diese hohle Gasse muss er kommen..."
- Leonidas of Sparta
"People called Romanes they go the House"
- Alaric the Visigoth
As you know playing these games are not only for entertainment but also for that starting from a part of a history and then change it in a way to achieve success. So if you think Athens was weak , in this game you can change the history and atone the mistakes of Athens. Therefore you can realize what mistakes Greeks did and you use an appropriate policy to play an important role in the world and rebuil that faction.
He who has bread has many problems;
He who has no bread has only one problem.
Byzantine Proverb
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