Random Thoughts Thread

[caravel]

Or... I might have it backwards, it might have been mutant cockroaches making beer out of fermented Belgians...

[Montmorency]

Is it me, or is lately there a weird trend in academic philosophy toward a "practical", "common-sense" realism in which, Oh no guys, we had it right all along, everything is exactly as it seems, or in other words it is exactly as it seems to me and the subsistence-farmer minds of ancient times.

[Vuk]

That is a bad thing?

[a completely inoffensive name]

Is it me, or is lately there a weird trend in academic philosophy toward a "practical", "common-sense" realism in which, Oh no guys, we had it right all along, everything is exactly as it seems, or in other words it is exactly as it seems to me and the subsistence-farmer minds of ancient times.

That is just a consequence of prolonged criticism from the public at large towards notions of being purposely obfuscating with jargon and being removed from reality in Ivory Towers.

That being said, I do believe there is value in things said by the ancients. I like the Epicureans and the Stoics and the ancient Skeptics I have read. What i don't like, is the very beginning of the "modern" philosophy and traditions with people like Descarte talking about demons tricking your eyes or whatever the garbage he spews to justify God's existence.

[Montmorency]

I'm not talking about the Classical or Late Antique philosophers - who aren't interesting anyway - but notions like "we may take as data for philosophical inquiry many of the things we ordinarily think we know", or that philosophers need not "deny what we all know to be true".

[a completely inoffensive name]

I'm not talking about the Classical or Late Antique philosophers - who aren't interesting anyway - but notions like "we may take as data for philosophical inquiry many of the things we ordinarily think we know", or that philosophers need not "deny what we all know to be true".

Can you provide some examples to clarify this point?

[Montmorency]

http://www.ditext.com/moore/common-sense.html

[a completely inoffensive name]

http://www.ditext.com/moore/common-sense.html

Ahh, I see what you are talking about. Leaving aside that this was published in 1959........I need a few days to fully read and understand what this dude is saying. I don't want to comment in the positive or negative towards "common sense" philosophy without some grounding of what that actually entails.

EDIT: Whoops got the year wrong.

[Vuk]

What i don't like, is the very beginning of the "modern" philosophy and traditions with people like Descarte talking about demons tricking your eyes or whatever the garbage he spews to justify God's existence.

lmbfao :P

[Fragony]

The point is that thing you just missed ACIN. Heck, I don't even like philosophy. Descartes is kinda a rebel.

[Fragony]

There is nohing more satisfying than hearing these flies having a slow slow and horrible death on the sticky straps I hung up for them, it's like a christmas tree, but with flies. No mercy if you keep harrasing me. I hate flies. They keep comming for my nose and eyes, and the rest of whatever pieces of my body they can, and when they don't they are just doing nothing but flying. HATE flies

[Ibrahim]

-God, Red Orchestra 2 kicks my bum down to the bone!

-I wish faster than light travel was possible within the decade. too bad it won't happen, but I so want to see another Earth-like planet.

-maybe I should have gotten a degree in physics--I could be the guy who makes the Alcubierre drive possible

[Vuk]

Or... I might have it backwards, it might have been mutant cockroaches making beer out of fermented Belgians...

I thought Belgians already were fermented.