Socialism: the problem and prescription's of Marx

[HoreTore]

Because contrary to your notions of social ownership distinct from the state, such ideas have been very much on the fringe of socialism. State ownership is the norm in socialist theory - not because it happens to be one of many options, but because the acquisition of the means of production by an institution invested with all the powers of government is deemed necessary for their redistribution. It is for this reason that ownership by the state in particular is regarded as a necessary consequence of socialist theory.

That's highly Leninist of you, Rhy.

Just because everyone who supported other forms have been shot does not mean they never existed or had an influence on socialist theory.

CNT-FAI, for example, never called for government ownership, at least not in our traditional understanding of the term "government". And they had 500.000 members before Stalin shot 'em, hardly "a fringe".