Why Does Scotland Want To Be Independent?

[Rhyfelwyr]

“So with your first sentence you make it sound like you acknowledge the good and the bad” I do not make distinction between bad and good. That is your interpretation of words. These are facts. Tell me, what great scientific discovery was done with the full support of the Church? And don’t speak of individual cleric, I mean the Church as a system.

I think it is implied in your argument that opposing scientific advancement is a bad thing. Certainly, I've never heard you praise the church for it!

As for your question - I don't know, the moon landings? Here's a better idea, since you are the one making positive claims and feeling confident enough to apply these to every Christian denomination and every scientific discovery, how about you provide the wealth of evidence you must have to support such absolute claims?

“destructive” Your word, mine is obstructive at minimum.

I shall hold you to this in future.

“the churches related with every scientific discovery that has ever occured.” No need for this, you just have to know how much time the Churches were against scientific discoveries.

You stated the churches opposition in absolute, rather than general terms. You went to the trouble to point out that all denominations were guilty of this with all scientific progress. Don't backtrack.

But since you are the man that quotes “At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel” somehow I doubt you have such knowledge.

Um... while you believe that my conclusion might be the result of a lack of knowledge, it is not necessarily so.

I pointed out a clear and outright error on your part - something you have been unable to do in return, despite your attempt at a 'comeback'.

Rather, its invigoration for the modern era.

Yes, Calvinism in particular, and the Reformation more generally, did complement a resurgence in natural philosophy. But the relationship may have been one of mutual reinforcement, rathern than one-way causation - Calvin had studied philosophy and law and was well acquainted with humanism before his conversion.