Turkish Spring ?

[Fragony]

RIP lady, I hope they get the guy who did that

Edit, I heard the army is handing out gasmasks to protesters, what is happening here LEN? Did Ordugan piss the army off too much?

[HopAlongBunny]

Ouch!

I hope you are safe and sound. I thought the democratic process was supposed to make all this impossible; looks like theory needs a huge revision

[Fragony]

Turkey is weird, after hours of talking with a Turkish friend (not about this) I was even more confused.

'That makes no sense at all!'

'Well yeah it doesn't'

It's interesting that they call it occupie, that's a rather western term. This may actually be good. Go Turks hadi hadi

[Empire*Of*Media]

why confused exactly ?
but for this matter, i dont think be that serious !
but anything comes for the Turks, will be against Kurds !! and ********** !!!! (Censored) !

Go Turks hadi hadi

Damn that was Funny !!! how do you know that word !!

[Fragony]

Relationship between the military and the government, I don't understand who's really in charge.

[Empire*Of*Media]

Turkey is led by Military !! at it was from 1921 ! and did too many massacres and forcible migrations to Kurds & Armenians & Assyrians.

i almost forgot: its weired interesting that a little revolt is broadcasting in media, but the 90 years of killings, or at least 22 years and still going-on, of killing the Kurdish civilians In streets and Jailing Kurdish Jurnalists & Activtists,(That now Turkey has the second place in the world of jailing Jurnalists) will not be shown in any media and news channel!! and the belgium government is ordered by Germany to attack & close a Kurdish Channel!! The Danish Too BANed another!! the Silence of EU about Terrors of Three Kurdish Peace Activitists in Paris !!
Does not this means a connection between Turkish government with EU & USA and Nato to censor the news and block some news to be broadcasted?!
ah, thanks EU & USA for your support of tyranny Dictatorship and Racism!
now that PKK has gone from turkey by the order of our Leader Abdulah Ujalan, to resolve the Kurdish issue and tell that they are not Terrorists, what can you do again ?!

[Husar]

Does not this means a connection between Turkish government with EU & USA and Nato to censor the news and block some news to be broadcasted?!

No. A lot of the real reasons you mention are why Turkey has not been allowed into the EU yet and some of them are mentioned by our politicians whenever the issue comes up. There's no need to make any conspiracies up. Please show me the censorship, I have quickly found some links that show there is none:
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/auslan...-a-903192.html
http://www.focus.de/politik/ausland/...d_1003156.html
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/a...-12203940.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22739423

It's also on the radio today and that Turkey is the country with the most locked up journalists was also in one of LEN's various links.
Should be pretty obvious that there is no censoring going on.

And LEN, good luck with that. A sensibly democratic Turkey would be nice to see.

[LeftEyeNine]

This is a thread about a strong protest of its own kind where people of every ethnicity, religion, ages and ideals or those with none at all are flocking to Istanbul, and if they can't they gather in their hometowns.

So please drag your personal agendas elsewhere.

I've checked all Turkish TV channels a few minutes before and it's all your "ordinary Sunday" while the protests are getting stronger reinforced with people from other cities whereas police forces are rumoured to have called for an extra 10.000 to "manage" the incidents. Social and international media are the only windows opening to the outside world right now. We've read news of certain police forces from other cities refusing to reinforce their "colleagues" in Istanbul and those that have quit their jobs.

The undercover cops are told to be smashing ATMs and damaging mass transportation vehicles so as to later condemn the protests and justify the rageful conduct of the police.

If you still like Erdogan and AKP, sorry but you and I have distances as I am a Turkish citizen living in this almost-hellhole.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

This is a thread about a strong protest of its own kind where people of every ethnicity, religion, ages and ideals or those with none at all are flocking to Istanbul, and if they can't they gather in their hometowns.

So please drag your personal agendas elsewhere.

I've checked all Turkish TV channels a few minutes before and it's all your "ordinary Sunday" while the protests are getting stronger reinforced with people from other cities whereas police forces are rumoured to have called for an extra 10.000 to "manage" the incidents. Social and international media are the only windows opening to the outside world right now. We've read news of certain police forces from other cities refusing to reinforce their "colleagues" in Istanbul and those that have quit their jobs.

The undercover cops are told to be smashing ATMs and damaging mass transportation vehicles so as to later condemn the protests and justify the rageful conduct of the police.

If you still like Erdogan and AKP, sorry but you and I have distances as I am a Turkish citizen living in this almost-hellhole.

Surely this is not all new, though. The Turkish Republic has always had a problem balancing liberty with a perceived need to enforce fraternity. Previously, that was aggressively enforced Secularism, now it appears the current government is enforcing Cronyism with an Islamic twist.

Which is obviously worse.

[Empire*Of*Media]

This is a thread about a strong protest of its own kind where people of every ethnicity, religion, ages and ideals or those with none at all are flocking to Istanbul, and if they can't they gather in their hometowns.

So please drag your personal agendas elsewhere.

I've checked all Turkish TV channels a few minutes before and it's all your "ordinary Sunday" while the protests are getting stronger reinforced with people from other cities whereas police forces are rumoured to have called for an extra 10.000 to "manage" the incidents. Social and international media are the only windows opening to the outside world right now. We've read news of certain police forces from other cities refusing to reinforce their "colleagues" in Istanbul and those that have quit their jobs.

The undercover cops are told to be smashing ATMs and damaging mass transportation vehicles so as to later condemn the protests and justify the rageful conduct of the police.

If you still like Erdogan and AKP, sorry but you and I have distances as I am a Turkish citizen living in this almost-hellhole.

i think it had relevance with your say about your racist Government !! it shows how much oppressor and Dictator & killer & Racist is your government!

and, really is that serious ?!! i mean people want reform or Government Change due to their peaceful demonstration oppressed & Suppressed ?! and will it spread to other regions, not just Istanbul?! really at last Turks have been sapientialed?! (sorry for bad english!)

and the matter of UNDERCOVER POLICE, EXACTLY LIKE 2009 REVOLT IN IRAN after elections, they have learned from Iranian regime's anti-revolt Police, where they smashed cars & public proprietors, and later then, they said it was from a little INSURGENCY (People!!) to legalize & Justify their suppression and crimes!! LOL !! dictators have many in common!

anyway, if any REAL peace movement is headed, it must be supported, as i do. but i doubt, Turkey is USA's strong ally, and USA will do anything at all cost not to lose it. so this is transient i think, as it was the Wall-Street Movement because of suppressions. you know, IMPERIALISM !

[ICantSpellDawg]

This is a thread about a strong protest of its own kind where people of every ethnicity, religion, ages and ideals or those with none at all are flocking to Istanbul, and if they can't they gather in their hometowns.

So please drag your personal agendas elsewhere.

I've checked all Turkish TV channels a few minutes before and it's all your "ordinary Sunday" while the protests are getting stronger reinforced with people from other cities whereas police forces are rumoured to have called for an extra 10.000 to "manage" the incidents. Social and international media are the only windows opening to the outside world right now. We've read news of certain police forces from other cities refusing to reinforce their "colleagues" in Istanbul and those that have quit their jobs.

The undercover cops are told to be smashing ATMs and damaging mass transportation vehicles so as to later condemn the protests and justify the rageful conduct of the police.

If you still like Erdogan and AKP, sorry but you and I have distances as I am a Turkish citizen living in this almost-hellhole.

Media brainwashing isn't fun, is it? I'm against that stuff in Turkey, where it is obviously worse, just like I'm against it here.

Media tends to report narrative, not news. If the narrative of liberal development is threatened, media decides how to ignore news to stay on message. Narrative is the enemy of news. Broadcast news is government/power propaganda and entertainment everywhere you go. Every moment that you spend watching it you are demolishing your understanding of the world.

[Empire*Of*Media]

i dont think it has connections with the Kurds does it ??!

but giving SPRING to this little revolt is exaggerating !!
any way i Hope whatever it be, free the Kurds from Turkish made Poverty and Oppression to !!