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    So, finally, the Arab Spring was not Arab, but just a fight for democracy, as all Lefties, true to Marxist analyse, were saying. It is against nepotism, even painted under the Religions.
    And like in South America and in the Magreb, it started for nothing political, but a peaceful demonstration against a very trivial every day life problem and sparked the fire of possibly a Revolution.
    "As dark that night might be, light never goes off and so small is the ember, it sets fire to the plain." J.L. Mélenchon, Leader of the Front de Gauche in France.

    Demonstrations as well in Spain, Portugal, Greece, France and Germany against the "Troika" (E.U., I.F.M., E.C.B.). I would say massive, but to be fair, I don't know how many were demonstrating in Frankfurt.
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    the next is KURDISH Spring !!

    but this spring, does not bring Islamic fundamentalism !! but Freedom and Independence from Tyranny, oppression, hatred, Genocide,.......& Racism !!

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    lolololol @ quality media

    They have removed it by now but it sits firmly in the cache, it's in Dutch but the ministry of truth knows, for a fact, that it aren't riots but festivities. And people wonder why I don't read quality newspapers or watch state-tv

    https://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3293...juni2013tu.jpg < is in Dutch so it's of no use to you if you don't speak it

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    That's cute, total freak Erdogan promises a million counter-protesters can be rallied. This is getting really interesting. LEN & Mouz stay in your appartment or I am going to call your moms and tell her you are idiots.

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    I know that the protests are widespread now, but there have already been apologies and a recognition that the violence of the police needs to be investigated. More devolution of zoning authority would probably be a good solution. Calls for government abdication are absurd at this point.

    Injuries over mass mobilization are unacceptable and the police need to be held accountable. Also, media ties with government need to be broken. Let's see if any changes can be made here.
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    I'd like the Islamist be gone in Turkey, but in Turkey there Is Muslims Party and Kamalists Party, means both of them are dictators. The Islamist does need much tell.
    but the oppositions are the Ataturkists (kamalists),that its not fully opposite though, and have 60% of the government. and Ataturkists are secular, but are in fully hatred and extremely Racist, as they made great crimes against Kurds, Armenians, Assyrians. specially about Kurds that they even did not let Kurds speak with their ancient own language! or even Dress Kurdish!! (i dont say about jailing & Torturing and Killing Kurdish Civilians, because it will full the thread).

    so i dont have too much hope of this revolt, its very limited, and they just want to put the Racists FULLY in the Government again, that is horribly Dangerous for the Kurds & Peace in the Turkey. (as The AKP is too, but a very bit better than kamalists!)

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    So, in the end, you have the same problem as Iran had in the 1970's. Secularism has been enforced, and embraced by the middle class, but the working class and the rural poor are not really very secular.
    You can't really compare the two. The position of the clergy in Iran was (and is) completely​ different.
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