Please EB Moderators, why EB2 could be not Repetitive !

[Dargaron]

hello to all.

a think came to my mind, that, why the EB2 Moderators again repeated the EB1 in EB2?!
because Medieval2's graphic is not that significant, and, more important Rome2 is in that Period too!

so why again in 27 BC ?!! why same game ?!


a better thought came to my mind that, in Total war, they never created in the Classical or more ancient periods. like 1500 BC-400 BC!
you know, we had greater and more interesting Civilizations, like Assyrians-Hurrians-Hittyans-Ancient Egypt-ELAM-MITANNI-Babylons-MEDIA(Mada-Medes)- & ....etc.

i know a mod "Rise Of Persia" was made but it was limited and very little worked and not significant like EB.

so whats your Idea ?!

and if this Idea is better, so would the Moderators of EBII listen and do that and create a more ancient total war or better say EB Near East Total War?!
i hope so! because original Total War builders dont pay much attention to general history, only the greeks! and my only hope is EB moderators !!

Just to take your suggestion at face value (I don't believe for a second that the EBII team would scrap their work thus far on their brilliant mod, nor would I want them to do so), if you wanted to put together your own mod, two dates that might be interesting for a pre-EB mod that included Acheamenid(sp?) Persia would probably be 559 (Rise of Persia’s start date) and somewhere between 366-360 BC. The problem with any other dates is the overwhelming size of the Acheamenid Empire, as Brennus pointed out.

In, for instance, 364 B.C. the Persian Empire would be going through the Satrap’s Revolt. This would open up a large number of potential “successor states” (I’m not sure what to call them: the Persian Empire hasn’t been either De Jure or De Facto dissolved yet.) while at the same time, weakening Persia enough that it doesn’t simply walk over everyone.

A reasonably-sized map would include Italy up to the Alps and North-Western Africa (including the Baleares but not Iberia), extending either to or beyond the Indus Valley.

A faction list (w/ victory conditions) that I put together in a couple hours would probably look something like this:

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Western Mediterranean:

Cisalpine Boii (or a more worthy tribe/kingdom of Cisalpine Gaul)
VCs: Conquer most of Italy up to Campania
One or more Etruscan city-states/leagues
VCs: Conquer most of Italy up tp Campania
SPQR
VCs: Conquer most of Italy south of the Arno-Rubicon, possibly sections of Epirus/Illyria
Samnites
VCs: Conquer most of Italy south of the Arno-Rubicon, possibly sections of Epirus/Illyria
Syracuse
VCs: Conquer Sicily, Southern Italy including Campania and the Islands of the Mediterranean, possibly North Africa
Qarthadast

Hellas:
Thessalian League
VCs: Defeat Macedon and the other Greek Leagues, conquer Greece + Ionia, possibly Anatolia
Chalcidean League
VCs: Defeat Macedon and the other Greek Leagues, conquer Greece + Ionia, possibly Anatolia
Boeotian League
VCs: Defeat Macedon and the other Greek Leagues, conquer Greece + Ionia, possibly Anatolia
2nd Athenian Naval Confederacy
VCs: Defeat Macedon and the other Greek Leagues, conquer Greece + Ionia, possibly Anatolia
Peloponnesian League
VCs: Defeat Macedon and the other Greek Leagues, conquer Greece + Ionia, possibly Anatolia

Balkans:
Macedonia
VCs: Conquer Thrace, Illyria, Greece and Anatolia
Getai/Odrysian Kingdom
VCs: Conquer Macedonia, the Dardanian Kingdom, possibly Hellespontine Phrygia
Dardanian Kingdom
VCs: Conquer Macedonia, the Odrysian Kingdom, possibly Hellespontine Phrygia


Anatolia:
Realm of Datames
VCs: Conquer Anatolia, Thrace, Cyprus and Armenia
Realm of Mausolos
VCs: Conquer the Aegean Islands, Cyprus, Western and Southern Anatolia and Thrace
Realm of Orontes
VCs: Conquer Anatolia, Syria,, Cyprus Yehud, Babylonia, Media and Persia
Realm of Artabazus
VCs: Conquer Western, Central and Northern Anatolia, Thrace and the Aegean Islands
Realm of Evagoras
VCs: Conquer Southern Asia Minor, Phoenicia, Yehud and the Aegean Islands

Eastern Mediterranean (Syria, Phoenicia, Palestine, Eastern Africa):
Kemet
VCs: Conquer Nubia, Yehud, Syria and Cyprus
Kingdom of Tyre
VCs: Conquer Yehud, Syria, Cyprus and Qarthadast
Kingdom of Napata
VCs: Conquer Egypt, Western Arabia and Yehud

“Upper Asia”
Realm of Artaxerxes
VCs: Control Persia, the Upper Satrapies, Armenia, Syria, Anatolia, Phoenicia, Yehud, Egypt and the Hindu Kush.
(There could possibly be a breakaway faction in the Upper Satrapies, since these regions were loosely under the control of the Persian Shahanshah. Just as Baktria wasn’t De Jure independent in 272, but was still a faction).
Saka/Dahae
VCs: Control the Upper Satrapies, Persia and the Hindu Kush

India:
Maghada
VCs: Control the Ganges, the Indus and the Hindu Kush
3-4 “Janapada” kingdoms in the Punjab and Sindh.
VCs: Control the Ganges and the Indus

Of course, different govt buildings could be used to tweak the factions’ relative standing. For instance, the govt building in Yehud (which would probably start off under the control of the “Realm of Artaxerxes”) would probably be the equivalent of a Type 3 or 4 govt from EBI. So, Yehud would have reasonably reliable Public Order, but wouldn’t supply much in the way of taxes or trade income to Artaxerxes.

Now, it's easy for me to loftily pull a faction list out of thin air, but if you want to see a Classical Persia-themed mod, it could reasonably be done. You might be better off building your own team than trying to hijack another mod, though. Also, while you find EB's timeframe "repetitive," I at least am eagerly awaiting a revamped and redone version of Europa Barbarorum, and I suspect many others are as well.