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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    If you encrypt it well enough they will either fail to decrypt it at all or it will use insane amount of processing power to decrypt. As such if more people were to start using encryption, it would be almost impossible to monitor. However, it is also in the hands of software developers to encrypt chat systems and so on. I could start using the most secure messenger tomorrow and have zero friends participate because they wouldn't know how to install and configure it or simply dislike the smileys. WhatsApp was completely unsecured for a long time but everyone used it anyway. Goes back to what I said in the other thread about the internet really being new territory for humanity.
    I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that many proprietary encryption standards have backdoors builtin- keys to which are probably in the NSA's hands.
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    Government is the enemy and ours is full of traitors. Hold these people in contempt. Snowden, Manning, and Assange are heroes and the canaries in the Coal mine. Individuals have a moral obligation to demolish secret government everywhere that they find it.

    If your company has a secret? Expose it. Your school, police department, post office? Expose them and let it be known. Massive organizations are constricting around our necks and we don't have much longer to resist them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICantSpellDawg View Post
    Government is the enemy and ours is full of traitors. Hold these people in contempt. Snowden, Manning, and Assange are heroes and the canaries in the Coal mine. Individuals have a moral obligation to demolish secret government everywhere that they find it.

    If your company has a secret? Expose it. Your school, police department, post office? Expose them and let it be known. Massive organizations are constricting around our necks and we don't have much longer to resist them.
    So what are the secrets of where you work Dawg?


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    So what are the secrets of where you work Dawg?
    We have none. We don't work for our customers and don't actually appreciate their business or loyalty as we obviously have no loyalty to them. Try a mutual company, they technically work for their customers who are both the shareholders and customers at the same time, rather than cattle to be milked and then slaughtered. liability is ranged approx 10 points, so that when people make an offer you can ask for 10 more percentage points. The harder you might argue and more irritating you are the more you will get, just don't get discouraged when you hear "no", just keep calling back. When you have a car accident you are entitled to money for loss of use (in this state at least) even if you don't rent a car. File small claims suit any time anybody says "comparative negligence" or low balls your rental or repairs - in my state it costs 35 bucks to file suit without an attorney and you don't have to do anything - presto, the a-holes who hit you get slapped with a summons and the insurance company has to hire an attorney for a couple thousand - hey, maybe they should have just paid you that extra $500 bucks. Some companies pay nuisance money for injuries even if it is unlikely that you would collect just to go away - we are not one of them. Switch auto insurance every 5 years but don't move your homeowners - in our state at least
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICantSpellDawg View Post
    We have none. We don't work for our customers and don't actually appreciate their business or loyalty as we obviously have no loyalty to them, liability is ranged 10 points, so that when people make an offer you can ask for 10 more percentage points. The harder you might argue and more irritating you are the more you will get, just don't get discouraged when you hear "no", just keep calling back. When you have a car accident you are entitled to money for loss of use (in this state at least) even if you don't rent a car. File small claims suit any time anybody says "comparative negligence" or low balls your rental or repairs - in my state it costs 35 bucks to file suit without an attorney and you don't have to do anything - presto, the a-holes who hit you get slapped with a summons. Some companies pay nuisance money for injuries even if it is unlikely that you would collect just to go away - we are not one of them. Switch auto insurance every 5 years but don't move your homeowners - in our state at least
    I knew not ignoring you would yield results. May I ask which state this is, for future reference should I move to the USA?
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    Please, if anyone else has any tips from another industry, let 'em rip
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