Legal to murder a prostitute for non-compliance in the US?

**Greyblades** · 06-08-2013, 07:21

Have I mentioned that america scares me?

**Fragony** · 06-08-2013, 07:36

A very clever lawyer probably. Right and justice aren't always the same thing

**Fragony** · 06-08-2013, 10:14

Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube

Quite right when it comes to our legal system. What very likely happened was that some kind of evidence was considered inadmissable.

Consider: She was dead, so how do you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it wasn't a robbery? Our system errs on the side of caution, and a good defense lawyer can make a slam-dunk case into a wishy-washy fable given the right circumstances. Quite frankly I prefer it that way, as the overall effect is very good for civil liberties, despite the bad that slips through.

No different here, sometimes nobody understands a verdict, but the judge doesn't make the laws his hands are tied. Clever lawyers will use every exploit, and frankly that's what their job is, doing the best they can. Hope they go to a higher court so this scumbag just might still get what he deserves

Example that pissed of a lot of people, girl was violently raped by a gang, but she had voluntary sex with the first guy, after that his buddies came in and they all had a go. Judge can't know when voluntary sex became rape so they all walked. It doesn't feel right at all but that's how it works

**Beskar** · 06-08-2013, 14:44

Originally Posted by Fragony

Example that pissed of a lot of people, girl was violently raped by a gang, but she had voluntary sex with the first guy, after that his buddies came in and they all had a go. Judge can't know when voluntary sex became rape so they all walked. It doesn't feel right at all but that's how it works

Over here, it is when the girl or guy says "No". If it occurs after this, then it is rape. Even if he groped and fondled her a little pre-rape and she seemed to like it.

**Ronin** · 06-08-2013, 14:54

In Texas they really take the "customer is always right" thing to heart.

**Fragony** · 06-08-2013, 15:03

Originally Posted by Tiaexz

Over here, it is when the girl or guy says "No". If it occurs after this, then it is rape. Even if he groped and fondled her a little pre-rape and she seemed to like it.

But the judge can't know at which point she said no, so they all walk. There are so many bizar cases like this, another example, after a fatal hit and run from two robbers who were fleeing from the police both of the suspect claimed they weren't the one who was driving. Can't be proved who was driving so charges on hit and run were dropped despite both of them causing a lot of grieve

**Vuk** · 06-08-2013, 17:44

The strongest point of the American justice system is also its most flawed: Jury of your peers. All you need is a bunch of sympathetic idiots who have no understanding of or regard for the law. That is how O. J. Simpson got off and that is how this guy got off.

**Fragony** · 06-08-2013, 18:11

Originally Posted by Vuk

The strongest point of the American justice system is also its most flawed: Jury of your peers. All you need is a bunch of sympathetic idiots who have no understanding of or regard for the law. That is how O. J. Simpson got off and that is how this guy got off.

It's pretty frontierish. Jury's should get a say in what punishment someone ought be be getting as a mere recommendation at most imho, certainly not if someone is guilty or not, just to feel the temperature of the water. Much to be done there

**a completely inoffensive name** · 06-08-2013, 08:13

Originally Posted by Greyblades

Have I mentioned that america scares me?

Spend a week living with me, I doubt you will be scared once.

**Idaho** · 06-08-2013, 09:37

I might actually be going to America next month for work for the first time. I'm scared of the potential gunishment I might attract for not saluting the flag.