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    Ranting madman of the .org Senior Member Fly Shoot Champion, Helicopter Champion, Pedestrian Killer Champion, Sharpshooter Champion, NFS Underground Champion Rhyfelwyr's Avatar
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    HoreTore I think you are misdirecting your anger at the military as an institution when you vent against ordinary soldiers.

    Even if politicians and military leaders organise unjust or disastrous wars, soldiers are often the ones that do contribute something to the world, if not their own society as such. Look at what MRD did to help kids in Afghanistan.

    And even then, soldiers to make their own society safer - consider how the Islamists were driven out of southern Mali, much to the residents' joy. That place would have been a breeding ground for terrorism. Some wars might be counter-productive in that respect, but that is not the fault of ordinary soldiers.

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    but the soldier takes out much more of society's resources than the first two groups(who additionally feel shame because of their condition and are often/most of the time there because of past life experiences have put them there).
    Right, because returning soldiers are treated so well by society, feel nothing but pride for what they have done, and have no difficult past experiences to explain how they ended up in the military.
    At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    HoreTore I think you are misdirecting your anger at the military as an institution when you vent against ordinary soldiers.

    Even if politicians and military leaders organise unjust or disastrous wars, soldiers are often the ones that do contribute something to the world, if not their own society as such. Look at what MRD did to help kids in Afghanistan.

    And even then, soldiers to make their own society safer - consider how the Islamists were driven out of southern Mali, much to the residents' joy. That place would have been a breeding ground for terrorism. Some wars might be counter-productive in that respect, but that is not the fault of ordinary soldiers.
    I'm strictly speaking about Norway's military here, even though I certainly applaud every arms reduction wherever they happen. A norwegian soldier doesn't go into the army because of a lack of options, and he is most certainly not sent to war unless he desperately wants to be a part of it.

    ....And if helping kids is your dream, might I suggest the Red Cross...?
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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