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    I won't blame you if you are fed up with me posting about islam and my disgust of it.

    But here are some numbers, I absolutily will agree that he is a gun for hire when it comes to polls should that be your argument http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=92d_137026517 but there is no countering for the moment.

    - A majority of 55 percent favors stopping immigration from Islamic countries.
    - 63 percent say: no new mosques.
    - 72 percent favor a constitutional ban on Sharia law in the Netherlands.
    - 64 percent say that the arrival of immigrants from Islamic countries has not been beneficial to the Netherlands.
    - Nearly three-quarters — 73 percent — of all Dutch see a relationship between Islam and the recent terror acts in Boston, London and Paris.

    That are a lot of people who are more extreme than I am because I don't mind mosques, and I don't mind people from Islamic countries settling here.

    - 64 percent say that the arrival of immigrants from Islamic countries has not been beneficial to the Netherlands. <- that

    I agree with that but you already knew that, and keep in mind that most must have replied 'no opinion'

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    Failpad hates edit-button, it just doesn't react. Of course I meant the remaining 36% said 'no opinion'

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    A few bad apples spoil the bunch. Back in 1944, most people associated Germans with Nazi's. Then the Nazi's died but the Germans didn't. When the terrorists die (i.e. blow themselves up), we'll be left with normal sane Muslims. I think.

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    It's not necessarily just terrorism which led to the poll results, I don't think there have been any Islamic terror attacks in Holland? The failure, often due to a complete lack of effort, of a signifacant minority to integrate into Dutch society and expectation that Dutch society should change to accomodate them are more likely to be the main reasons. Certainly when I lived there, 13 or so years ago, this was the opinion of a lot of native Dutch I spoke to.

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    There is a reason a lot of Dutch think like this and it has nothing to do with terrorism

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    No, it has more to do with the failure of policy (in fact, I'd say the presence of policy) where it concerns multiculturalism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spankythehippo View Post
    A few bad apples spoil the bunch. Back in 1944, most people associated Germans with Nazi's. Then the Nazi's died but the Germans didn't. When the terrorists die (i.e. blow themselves up), we'll be left with normal sane Muslims. I think.
    Well no. There is not a finite amount of terrorists out there. By all means if the Dutch want to be that restrictive, they are more than welcome to do it. Japan hates foreigners, allows no immigratioin and no one gets on their case about it. It's this bastard child of the whites man burden that guilt trips Europe into thinking they owe these people anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Well no. There is not a finite amount of terrorists out there. By all means if the Dutch want to be that restrictive, they are more than welcome to do it. Japan hates foreigners, allows no immigratioin and no one gets on their case about it. It's this bastard child of the whites man burden that guilt trips Europe into thinking they owe these people anything.
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    You are either a christian country or not. If the latter, then people with different religions should be welcomed.

    The price of free speech etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Well no. There is not a finite amount of terrorists out there. By all means if the Dutch want to be that restrictive, they are more than welcome to do it. Japan hates foreigners, allows no immigratioin and no one gets on their case about it. It's this bastard child of the whites man burden that guilt trips Europe into thinking they owe these people anything.
    Japan can get away with it, since they're rejecting everybody. If the Dutch stops the immigration of Muslims, then there obviously will be a backlash from the existing Dutch Muslims and the Muslims abroad. It's the fact that they're stopping a certain group of people, not people in general i.e. Japan.

    If they pass a bill to stop Muslims entering the country, I'm pretty sure the terrorists will hear about it. This will only paint a target on the Netherlands. I'm surprised there hasn't been any major terrorist activities in France, after the hijab ban. It's only a matter of time. You can't talk sense into a deluded idiotic fanatic.

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    Extremism is as welcome as the inquisition for most Dutch muslims, it's just that multiculturalists insists to fascilitate it and call it diversity or tolerance. De facto there is no problem with muslims in the Netherlands really

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    Quote Originally Posted by spankythehippo View Post
    Unfortunately, many people are dicks, so it is not fine. *sigh*
    Yeah, about 50% of the population are dicks. And almost 100% of terrorists have them too.

    So should we ban all male immigration?
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