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    Very interesting!

    I'll see if I can find anything that counters what dr. Mearsheimer says, if not, consider me corrected.
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    Hmm, after checking into this thread, I think I understand better.

    1. Persepolis is probably very biased as a story due to the background of the author. The pictures I have seen from the internet is probably a very biased account as well. Western citizens probably are more eager to share pictures of the relative minority of westernized Iranian citizens under the Shah then share pictures that more accurately represent the majority of Iranians (conservative, rural).

    2. As what Panzer shared, it makes sense that the Islamic fundamentalists provoked insurrections in Iraq and sparked retaliation from Saddam.

    It looks like another very enlightening thread was started by the most ignorant person on the forum. I'm gonna give myself a pat on the back.

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    Meanwhile, Hassan Rouhani is leading in the exit polls. I didn't see that one coming.
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    Persepolis is nothing but a western fueled circlejerk. It's hailed by the same liberals who decry the influence of the white man. I don't even know why you would read that as an into to Iranian anything. It would be a good introduction to one extremely privileged girl. It's as if entire criticisms of the great man theory and empiricism fetishization go out the window when a brown woman does it.

    I'm also disappointed Hax was wrong, because now PJ is going to think he's right about everything. Iran has been backing shia insurgents since time immemorial(still doing it now). Combine that with the fact that the Persians never whitewashed their pre islamic roots (unlike the Arabs and North Africans) and it's a bit touch and go in the region.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    I don't even know why you would read that as an into to Iranian anything.
    Because I don't bother to research things I find interesting before I read them. I simply read what interests me. I take something in at face value so I can get the message clearly and then I do my homework to dissect what was wrong about it and what wisdom could be salvaged from it.

    I'm very sorry I am an ignoramus, just keep me fed and I promise I won't bother you that much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name View Post
    Because I don't bother to research things I find interesting before I read them. I simply read what interests me. I take something in at face value so I can get the message clearly and then I do my homework to dissect what was wrong about it and what wisdom could be salvaged from it.

    I'm very sorry I am an ignoramus, just keep me fed and I promise I won't bother you that much.
    Bro, it's a bit of a joke

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    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Bro, it's a bit of a joke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hax View Post
    Meanwhile, Hassan Rouhani is leading in the exit polls. I didn't see that one coming.
    Which is unlikely to make much difference - he'll just make fewer combative statements.

    To ACIN's original question:

    Compare the pro-gun control, pro-choice American Liberal to the backwoods - militiaman who goes to a hardcore Baptist Church, hate Fags and would lay down his life for the Tea Party.

    Who's going to win in a fight?
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    Who's going to win in a fight?
    This is a trick question, right?

    1. The biggest one

    2. The fastest one

    3. The most desperate one

    Gotta be one of those, amirite?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    Which is unlikely to make much difference - he'll just make fewer combative statements.

    To ACIN's original question:

    Compare the pro-gun control, pro-choice American Liberal to the backwoods - militiaman who goes to a hardcore Baptist Church, hate Fags and would lay down his life for the Tea Party.

    Who's going to win in a fight?
    The Liberal. Before the two even reach confrontation the militiaman has been tazed to death by law enforcement's finest and his case been posted to the police abuses thread.
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    Exit goatbeard, enter Rohani. He is supposed to be a lot more moderate than goatbeard but experts say we shouldn't get our hopes up all too much when it comes to international policy. If these sick hangings stop and the women are less opressed I'm happy nevertheless. Neither will just vanish probably but this guy at least seems like a much better person than goatbeard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios View Post
    The Liberal. Before the two even reach confrontation the militiaman has been tazed to death by law enforcement's finest and his case been posted to the police abuses thread.
    Very funny - now explain Iran.

    The fact is - after the revolution, the Liberals want to talk, the Fundamentalists want to eliminate anyone else who opposes them to secure their version of a "better" world. That's because, by their very nature, Liberals tend to give ground.
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