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    Default Re: Will Obamacare succeed where term limits failed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    Not trying to "blame" anyone, just correctly and factually charting the legislative and published history of the initiatives that became Obamacare. It's all factual, it's all on record. Any resemblance between Grouch Marx singing "I'm Against It" and current Republican doom-sayers is purely voluntary.
    Again, the adoption of a mandate-type plan was an half-hearted response to Hillarycare that never enjoyed widespread support among Republicans or conservatives.

    Single-payer healthcare has facts, empiricism, and real-world results. Private sector healthcare has ideology (and in the USA, inertia). Explain to me which of these proposals, on this basis, is more "conservative."
    Single-payer, socialized medicine would not be my favored choice. I think it would almost certainly, however, lower the astronomical growth of medical costs. Would it lower them enough to make them sustainable? I doubt it- not without rationing. Regardless, Obamacare != single-payer healthcare. It is increasing costs. And it makes most of our problems worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump View Post
    Delayed a year.

    L O Effing L. Republican blame game GOGOGOGOGO
    Conveniently, that puts the implementation after the mid-term elections. The Democrats know they're got a big steaming turd on their hands and the last thing they want is a year of suffering under the employer mandate leading up to the elections.

    Edit:An exit question.. Under what authority can the administration postpone implementation? I'm not aware of the law having that flexibility in it. Anyone want to set me straight here?
    Last edited by Xiahou; 07-05-2013 at 19:28.
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