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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    The manufacturer pays 1, charges more makes profit. The hospital charges 800 to offset costs on other levels.
    There's truth in what you say, but the bolded bit is ... shall we say an extremely generous interpretation of hospital behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    There's truth in what you say, but the bolded bit is ... shall we say an extremely generous interpretation of hospital behavior.
    Well, one of the costs they are offsetting is that of indigents and illegals receiving primary care in hospital emergency rooms on a (like it or not) pro bono basis. It must mount up somewhere, because as a sector health care facilities don't show huge profit margins compared to pharmaceuticals (license to print money) or biotechnology (license to print money in large denominations).

    Still, it must be noted that the ACA is an attempt (how effective we shall see) to stop the entirely pro bono care in emergency rooms in favor of complete health coverage and increased preventative care.
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    Out of random curiosity...

    Mandatory insurances have existed in the Neth's for a considerable time now in some form or another. There is a group of people here, which was never that big and is considerably diminished today, which is opposed to the very concept of insurance on religious grounds. I gather that their idea is that random misfortunes are not random at all, but the Will of God, and that it's blasphemy or at least hubris to try to avoid the consequenses.

    Is this line of thought at all common in the US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kralizec View Post
    Out of random curiosity...

    Mandatory insurances have existed in the Neth's for a considerable time now in some form or another. There is a group of people here, which was never that big and is considerably diminished today, which is opposed to the very concept of insurance on religious grounds. I gather that their idea is that random misfortunes are not random at all, but the Will of God, and that it's blasphemy or at least hubris to try to avoid the consequenses.

    Is this line of thought at all common in the US?
    No. Those who believe in full and complete pre-ordination are quite rare.
    "The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman

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