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    The Chicago Tribune's editorial board slams Obamacare. This was something of a surprise seeing as how it's his hometown paper. As always, read the whole article, but here's the last line money-shot....

    Truth, consequences and Obamacare
    It was a mistake to attempt such a massive government intrusion on a marketplace and a mistake to do so without anything close to a public consensus.
    I couldn't say it much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou View Post
    The Chicago Tribune's editorial board slams Obamacare. This was something of a surprise seeing as how it's his hometown paper. As always, read the whole article, but here's the last line money-shot....

    Truth, consequences and Obamacare
    I couldn't say it much better.
    Unfortunately it is sour grapes at this point. It is law. It is now more important that we kill the evil within the law and replace it with good. Continuing to point out how bad the law is won't get it overturned
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube View Post
    And of course what exactly is wrong with the law is a huge spectrum of opinions. Acting like the "Repeal It!" crowd is even remotely close to a majority of those unhappy with it would be a mistake on part of the Republicans. Some want tougher intervention, most at least want the to keep in place the consumer protection aspects of the law no matter what kind of reform occurs. If R's want a say in the future they need to start negotiating.

    I hope Xiahou is still around here in 2016 so I can link back to this thread and say I Told You So when obstructionism fails again.
    We should capitalize on the confusion and frustration with the
    Law, but in a different direction. Most people only know how they feel., not what needs to be done to fix anything. Id like to see Republicans sweep in with health insurance premium relief in the form of coinsurance increases (which most people don't understand) along with the requirement that all companies period provide access to HSA's for their employees, which they can use to pay their medical expenses INCLUDING insurance premiums. This will benefit everyone immediately out of pocket, except the most seriously I'll, who likely have disability supplements and access to medicaid.

    You would see premium relief, taxable income relief and a more sustainable program in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICantSpellDawg View Post
    Unfortunately it is sour grapes at this point. It is law. It is now more important that we kill the evil within the law and replace it with good. Continuing to point out how bad the law is won't get it overturned
    Whats the "good"?
    There's giveaways, but they're not "good", unless bankrupting the insurance industry is what you consider good.
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