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I am an oldest child (of 5) with nearly a decade and a half between my youngest 2 siblings. My nearest in age siblings had a similar upbringing. We were not good at or interested in sports and we are not particularly hard workers, nor did we have any specific goal or focus in our studies. We weren't completely lazy, all of us having worked part-time throughout high school without a major gap in employment, but we were not hard working by any standard. Reasonably charismatic in sales. Each of us did food service, then retail and stayed in retail for too long during college, failing to do internships or study abroad programs. I'm the only one to graduate or show any signs of graduating by my mid-twenties. The other two have now set themselves up for failure. I have also set myself up for failure, but at least have a degree to jump start my life if I ever figure out how to have a goal (a goal that I am not rendered ineligible for due to multiple illnesses that make me look like a leper on paper)
My brother and sister are, at this stage, similarly inclined to floating through life without having a goal. They may snap out of this, but looking at their siblings I would bet against it. I still want them to make alot of money, even if they are floaters like myself, so I would like to direct them in a different path. Variables in the younger ones lives include, but are not limited to: They are black and/or Hispanic (adopted), they are good at sports, they don't have the gift of gab that the older 3 had, but are more popular at the compared ages for siblings. Each is attractive and physically fit, moreso than the older 2 (and, possibly, myself), and will likely retain a pleasant complexion in their adulthood which will make it easier to succeed.
Here is the question: In order to avoid being an insurance agent or retail manager and making a low average income in a position that is uninteresting for the rest of their lives - what type of job would be good for a 16 year old to do that would keep them away from retail or food services? Now that I have some successful friends in multiple positions I would feel less weird about leveraging my influence for my siblings than I would for myself. Other friends that I have who are similarly prone to personal failure have done well, usually as a result of older siblings or parents angling influence to get them into high paying positions usually after college. It truly is who you know, if you are not a particularly gifted and goal oriented superhuman.
Any suggestions?
EDIT: clarification, I am not a total failure. I am reasonably successful in my personally life, with a loving wife, decent family relationship, multiple decent friendships with people who would come to the mutual assistance of one another. What I mean is that I am a professional failure at this stage, as a result of a combination of bad luck, poor preparation, and lack of an ability to target or actualize an objective.
My brother and sister are, at this stage, similarly inclined to floating through life without having a goal. They may snap out of this, but looking at their siblings I would bet against it. I still want them to make alot of money, even if they are floaters like myself, so I would like to direct them in a different path. Variables in the younger ones lives include, but are not limited to: They are black and/or Hispanic (adopted), they are good at sports, they don't have the gift of gab that the older 3 had, but are more popular at the compared ages for siblings. Each is attractive and physically fit, moreso than the older 2 (and, possibly, myself), and will likely retain a pleasant complexion in their adulthood which will make it easier to succeed.
Here is the question: In order to avoid being an insurance agent or retail manager and making a low average income in a position that is uninteresting for the rest of their lives - what type of job would be good for a 16 year old to do that would keep them away from retail or food services? Now that I have some successful friends in multiple positions I would feel less weird about leveraging my influence for my siblings than I would for myself. Other friends that I have who are similarly prone to personal failure have done well, usually as a result of older siblings or parents angling influence to get them into high paying positions usually after college. It truly is who you know, if you are not a particularly gifted and goal oriented superhuman.
Any suggestions?
EDIT: clarification, I am not a total failure. I am reasonably successful in my personally life, with a loving wife, decent family relationship, multiple decent friendships with people who would come to the mutual assistance of one another. What I mean is that I am a professional failure at this stage, as a result of a combination of bad luck, poor preparation, and lack of an ability to target or actualize an objective.
16 year olds don't get employed in anything except retail and food.
I don't know what it's like in the US, but in Australia you'd need to be lucky to land any job other than restocking shelves and tending the checkout at that age with no formal qualifications/experience. We're talking a small family business or something, otherwise it's just supermarkets after school - no exceptions.
And that's at the best of economic times.
Honestly, why do you want to manipulate their direction in life (and "directionless" is a valid direction)?
You don't even know how you want to manipulate them, you just feel compelled to do so anyway.
I don't know what it's like in the US, but in Australia you'd need to be lucky to land any job other than restocking shelves and tending the checkout at that age with no formal qualifications/experience. We're talking a small family business or something, otherwise it's just supermarkets after school - no exceptions.
And that's at the best of economic times.
Honestly, why do you want to manipulate their direction in life (and "directionless" is a valid direction)?
You don't even know how you want to manipulate them, you just feel compelled to do so anyway.
If they are going to float through life, I'd rather them float with money.
Set themselves up their own business. Get them to watch a few episodes of the Apprentice and they always have tasks such as going to a big warehouse, buying things people might want on the cheap, then sell it at inflated prices at a market stall.
Well there are multiple jobs a kid of 16 year old can do from working/helping on a farm, waitering, help with basic administration tasks in a small company, working at a factory,... However i'm not sure if that necessarily what you might really help them develop character and abilities. Well except for working on a farm. If they're old enough they might be able to work as a camp leader for special need children or something that might be something that could really enrich them, though they'd have to be open minded about it or some ling of volunteering job. Those are not bad to put on a cv either, though when it comes to this helping with administration might then be the best solution.
Of course there's the final option of instead of working you could send them for period to live abroad or study abroad. It is perfect for enriching them culturally and helping them to really learn a new language, which is a skill that does help quite a bit in both the Academic world as well as in the business world.
Of course there's the final option of instead of working you could send them for period to live abroad or study abroad. It is perfect for enriching them culturally and helping them to really learn a new language, which is a skill that does help quite a bit in both the Academic world as well as in the business world.
Desire must come from within.
Plenty of people have clawed their way up the service ladder.
Plenty of people have clawed their way up the service ladder.
you could always live life like Robert Guiscard 
my advice would be to find a part time job, save what you can, invest it, and get an education or training with it in something practical and marketable.
you could also try, as has been suggested, to start a business of your own.
my advice would be to find a part time job, save what you can, invest it, and get an education or training with it in something practical and marketable.
you could also try, as has been suggested, to start a business of your own.
Originally Posted by ICantSpellDawg:
If they are going to float through life, I'd rather them float with money.
Have them born wealthy.If they are going to float through life, I'd rather them float with money.
OR
Tell them to start their own religion. Enjoy the life of floating around, sleeping with girls who just finished their first acid trip.
Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube:
You don't want them to work retail and food? Then make them work retail and food, so they can learn to hate it.
You don't want them to work retail and food? Then make them work retail and food, so they can learn to hate it.
So a recent survey I heard about on the radio said something like 77% of Americans do not like their job. Some responses included 77% of Americans were ungrateful for their job. Off your ass and on your feet, you gotta work if you wanna eat. Anyhow, apparently, you are not the only one that does not like his/her job.
Do not think for a second that day care centers for young or retirement homes for old are a cakewalk, but they are both places where entry level workers can find opportunities. Part time seasonal jobs can help build a resume so you can get into those places. Part time seasonal can include lifeguards, summer camp supervisors, or zoo attendants. Fun will not find you but if you have some imagination, you can make a job fun.
Do not think for a second that day care centers for young or retirement homes for old are a cakewalk, but they are both places where entry level workers can find opportunities. Part time seasonal jobs can help build a resume so you can get into those places. Part time seasonal can include lifeguards, summer camp supervisors, or zoo attendants. Fun will not find you but if you have some imagination, you can make a job fun.
Originally Posted by ICantSpellDawg:
If they are going to float through life, I'd rather them float with money.
Let them float how ever they want!If they are going to float through life, I'd rather them float with money.
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