Results 1 to 18 of 18

Thread: Berlusconi convicted

  1. #1
    has a Senior Member HoreTore's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Norway
    Posts
    12,014

    Default Berlusconi convicted

    So, the tanned Italian got 7 years in prison for buying an underage prostitute and abuse of power. Thoughts?

    Also, if someone can explain the italian legal system with regards to what comes next, that would be awesome!
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

  2. #2

    Default Re: Berlusconi convicted

    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Also, if someone can explain the italian legal system with regards to what comes next, that would be awesome!
    An appeal, delays and most likely nothing.
    - Tellos Athenaios
    CUF tool - XIDX - PACK tool - SD tool - EVT tool - EB Install Guide - How to track down loading CTD's - EB 1.1 Maps thread


    ὁ δ᾽ ἠλίθιος ὣσπερ πρόβατον βῆ βῆ λέγων βαδίζει” – Kratinos in Dionysalexandros.

  3. #3
    COYATOYPIKC Senior Member Flatout Minigame Champion Arjos's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Prisoners upon this rock, flying without wings...
    Posts
    9,267

    Default Re: Berlusconi convicted

    And after that cassation, provided along the line it doesn't go beyond the time limit...

    So nothing is the best description for it ^^

  4. #4
    Iron Fist Senior Member Husar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    15,401

    Default Re: Berlusconi convicted

    Prison? He made a law himself that says people over 70 can get house arrest instead of prison.
    Since he is over 70, it's thus unlikely that he will sit in a prison. I know that not being able to leave your home is also considered a punishment but it's still not a prison in the strict sense.


    "Topic is tired and needs a nap." - Tosa Inu

  5. #5
    Sovereign Oppressor Member TIE Fighter Shooter Champion, Turkey Shoot Champion, Juggler Champion Kralizec's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    5,812

    Default Re: Berlusconi convicted

    Most legal systems have rules that cause the power of the state to prosecute someone to expire, if too much time passes.

    The peculiar thing about Italy is that this can also happen when a trial is ongoing - even an appeal - so if Berlusconi can stretch his appeal long enough, he'll be off the hook. He's gotten away in this manner several times already.

  6. #6
    Horse Archer Senior Member Sarmatian's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Novi Sad, Serbia
    Posts
    4,306

    Default Re: Berlusconi convicted

    I'm on Berlusconi's side - what's the point of power, money and influence if you can't have orgies with younger models...

    Members thankful for this post (3):



  7. #7
    Upstanding Member rvg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    America
    Posts
    3,818

    Default Re: Berlusconi convicted

    I will miss him.
    "And if the people raise a great howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war and not popularity seeking. If they want peace, they and their relatives must stop the war." - William Tecumseh Sherman

    “The market, like the Lord, helps those who help themselves. But unlike the Lord, the market does not forgive those who know not what they do.” - Warren Buffett

  8. #8
    master of the pwniverse Member Fragony's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    The EUSSR
    Posts
    30,566

    Default Re: Berlusconi convicted

    Not that I like him but that girl looked a lot older than 17. Liking girls that could be your granddaughter isn't a crime, escort-service should be sued
    Last edited by Fragony; 06-27-2013 at 09:23.

  9. #9
    Iron Fist Senior Member Husar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    15,401

    Default Re: Berlusconi convicted

    Even if she looked like a grandmother I'd approve of this since the guy has abused Italy so much to his own advantage and got away with it that I applaud every effort to reign in on his schemes. It might also set a nice precedent about holding top officials responsible, or at least I wish it does.


    "Topic is tired and needs a nap." - Tosa Inu

  10. #10
    Darkside Medic Senior Member rory_20_uk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Taplow, UK
    Posts
    8,124

    Default Re: Berlusconi convicted

    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Not that I like him but that girl looked a lot older than 17. Liking girls that could be your granddaughter isn't a crime, escort-service should be sued
    Goes back to the chonological / physiological or psycological age of consent. We choose the first as it is easy, not really the best.

    An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
    Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.
    "If you can't trust the local kleptocrat whom you installed by force and prop up with billions of annual dollars, who can you trust?" Lemur
    If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain.
    The best argument against democracy is a five minute talk with the average voter. Winston Churchill

  11. #11
    has a Senior Member HoreTore's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Norway
    Posts
    12,014

    Default Re: Berlusconi convicted

    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    Goes back to the chonological / physiological or psycological age of consent. We choose the first as it is easy, not really the best.

    Not really, as this is not about age of consent, which in Italy is 14. The age restriction Berlusconi broke is a regulation of prostitution, and biological factors play little part there.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

  12. #12
    Darkside Medic Senior Member rory_20_uk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Taplow, UK
    Posts
    8,124

    Default Re: Berlusconi convicted

    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Not really, as this is not about age of consent, which in Italy is 14. The age restriction Berlusconi broke is a regulation of prostitution, and biological factors play little part there.
    And the law is the law of course...

    I was unaware that there was this disparity. Is this hence why it was "free" sex and a gift afterwards which is A-OK, but if the gift is payment then that is wrong?

    An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
    Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.
    "If you can't trust the local kleptocrat whom you installed by force and prop up with billions of annual dollars, who can you trust?" Lemur
    If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain.
    The best argument against democracy is a five minute talk with the average voter. Winston Churchill

  13. #13
    has a Senior Member HoreTore's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Norway
    Posts
    12,014

    Default Re: Berlusconi convicted

    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    And the law is the law of course...

    I was unaware that there was this disparity. Is this hence why it was "free" sex and a gift afterwards which is A-OK, but if the gift is payment then that is wrong?

    I guess so.

    The age of consent(typically around 15-16) is usually lower than the legal age for prositution(typically 18). Ribery is also punished by this, as the prositute he had sex with is above the age of consent, but below the legal age for prostitution.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

  14. #14
    Arena Senior Member Crazed Rabbit's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Between the Mountain and the Sound
    Posts
    11,074
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: Berlusconi convicted

    Amanda Knox? She got out and is free in America.

    CR
    Ja Mata, Tosa.

    The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder

  15. #15
    Dux Nova Scotia Member lars573's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Halifax NewScotland Canada
    Posts
    4,108

    Default Re: Berlusconi convicted

    Until her new trial starts anyway. Her appeal was overturned.
    If you havin' skyrim problems I feel bad for you son.. I dodged 99 arrows but my knee took one.

    VENI, VIDI, NATES CALCE CONCIDI

    I came, I saw, I kicked ass

  16. #16
    Formerly Wigferth Ironwall Senior Member Philippus Flavius Homovallumus's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Isca
    Posts
    12,779

    Default Re: Berlusconi convicted

    Quote Originally Posted by lars573 View Post
    Until her new trial starts anyway. Her appeal was overturned.
    No - her appeal is being appealed irrc, at which point she could be sent back to prison - but that seems unlikely because the US probably won't extradite her.

    Edit: I stand corrected - it has been sent back to the lower Court.
    Last edited by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus; 07-07-2013 at 14:37.
    "If it wears trousers generally I don't pay attention."


  17. #17

    Default Re: Berlusconi convicted

    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Not that I like him but that girl looked a lot older than 17. Liking girls that could be your granddaughter isn't a crime, escort-service should be sued
    I sense baiting and entrapment by his opponents.....
    Wooooo!!!

  18. #18

    Default Re: Berlusconi convicted

    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    So, the tanned Italian got 7 years in prison for buying an underage prostitute and abuse of power. Thoughts?

    Also, if someone can explain the italian legal system with regards to what comes next, that would be awesome!
    Next is so far down the road the guy may age out before consequences can be served. Besides, if I had that kind of money and I served even a day in jail, legions of ninjas would be deployed.
    "The good man is the man who, no matter how morally unworthy he has been, is moving to become better."
    John Dewey

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO