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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    A 100m runner in Norway will have to have a regular job on the side to make end meet. If he plays as a striker instead he'll earn millions and do celebrities on a regular basis.

    The choice is obvious.


    But I suppose you have research showing that a particular European/African mix results in optimal running results?
    You do realise that you require very different skills to be a footballer and a sprinter, right? Such as, oh I don't know, the ability to play football/
    You are aware that there are other sports in America that let in blacks these days beyond track and field, and that they are also paid as well as the whites? So this simplistic "explanation" falls down very quickly.

    And I'm afraid that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. I, as stated already, suggest that the results of certain sporting events can be used as an epidemiological study, albeit with the potential for confounding factors. I picked the 100m as the resources to run in a straight line are limited whereas competing in the sailing / cycling does require massive investment.
    Another example would be the long distance event runs. They tend to be African... Oh, except for the British winner Mohamed Farah. Who happens to be Somali. Slim, tall build makes better endurance runners? Piffle!

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    You do realise that you require very different skills to be a footballer and a sprinter, right? Such as, oh I don't know, the ability to play football/
    You are aware that there are other sports in America that let in blacks these days beyond track and field, and that they are also paid as well as the whites? So this simplistic "explanation" falls down very quickly.

    And I'm afraid that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. I, as stated already, suggest that the results of certain sporting events can be used as an epidemiological study, albeit with the potential for confounding factors. I picked the 100m as the resources to run in a straight line are limited whereas competing in the sailing / cycling does require massive investment.
    Another example would be the long distance event runs. They tend to be African... Oh, except for the British winner Mohamed Farah. Who happens to be Somali. Slim, tall build makes better endurance runners? Piffle!

    Yeah, the long distance. Dominated by Ethiopia and Kenya. Tanzania, on the other hand, hasn't had a proper runner ever. Same ethnicity and geography, and far more of a functioning country than Ethiopia.

    Kenya and Ethiopia has running academies, Tanzania does not. A Kenyan and Ethiopian is groomed by qualified coaches from an early age, a Tanzanian is not. Neither is a Norwegian, we're groomed as midfielders.


    The claim that playing football requires you to be able to play football is countered by the existance of Theo Walcott. Running fast is enough.


    The British has always had a strong tradition for running sports, far more than any other european country. The French, with a bigger african population than England, has never competed in running. Again I say sporting culture.
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    And there are no running academies in the whole of Europe and USA?

    All you shown is that with ability and support they are the best.

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    And there are no running academies in the whole of Europe and USA?

    All you shown is that with ability and support they are the best.

    What I'm trying to show is that those trying to prove genetic difference between races because of sporting results haven't looked closely at the facts and are ignoring the major influence proper training and sporting culture has.

    There are no running academies in Norway by the way. They exist in Britain and the US, two countries who have always had strong traditions in the sport, and consequently perform well in the olympics.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Neither is a Norwegian, we're groomed as midfielders.
    Defenders actually. Usually bad. The coaches teach them the difference between a ball and a player and explain that you're allowed to kick the former and not the latter, but, when they can't get to the former because the latter already got it, you're than allowed to kick the latter to stop him taking the former past you.

    After they master that, they're released upon unsuspecting world. And may God have mercy on their opponents.
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    You stopped believing people who have a phd to show? That's good. Why doubt me so much this is all official.
    I don't believe phd's who are universally discredited by the entire scientific community, no. Especially when that community is backed up by research showing the opposite.

    But honestly, we've been through this at great length already. I can't be bothered to repeat it. Expect nothing more than snide comments ridiculing you from me on this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    Defenders actually. Usually bad. The coaches teach them the difference between a ball and a player and explain that you're allowed to kick the former and not the latter, but, when they can't get to the former because the latter already got it, you're than allowed to kick the latter to stop him taking the former past you.

    After they master that, they're released upon unsuspecting world. And may God have mercy on their opponents.
    That's the ones who either can't run or can't be bothered to(I was a defender...).
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    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    I don't believe phd's who are universally discredited by the entire scientific community, no. Especially when that community is backed up by research showing the opposite.
    It was are perfectly fine numbers, all acounted for. They are from The wealth of Nations and I understand it's not your thing but there is no lie in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    It was are perfectly fine numbers, all acounted for. They are from The wealth of Nations and I understand it's not your thing but there is no lie in it.
    They are not from Adam Smiths masterpiece, no.

    Anyway, the work you tried to refer to has been widely discredited, as has Lynn himself, who now sits on the board of a foundation founded by this charming fellow. Lynn calls for the complete expulsion from Europe and the US of all people from cultures he gives lower IQ scores and calls for an intensive eugenics program which includes banning women from the workplace in order to make them have more babies.

    Yeah sure, not a nazi at all that guy.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    They are not from Adam Smiths masterpiece, no.

    Anyway, the work you tried to refer to has been widely discredited, as has Lynn himself, who now sits on the board of a foundation founded by this charming fellow. Lynn calls for the complete expulsion from Europe and the US of all people from cultures he gives lower IQ scores and calls for an intensive eugenics program which includes banning women from the workplace in order to make them have more babies.

    Yeah sure, not a nazi at all that guy.
    He kinda was I guess. But differentiating between cultures remains an excellent idea nevertheless. Of course that is racist, but it's also a pretty good idea. What use do we have for people who are by our standards pretty much retarded. Go herding goats on the mountain you rolled of, it won't work

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