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    Default Re: How should European countries react on the NSA activities?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiaexz View Post
    I wish the EU was stronger and people got behind it, then we don't have to play the silly argument game of "Let's suck up to USA or Russia!" which is fundamentally a dumb idea, considering that the EU together has bigger GDP and power than either the USA or Russia. They should be sucking up to the EU.
    I'll join that sentiment, assuming that the EU you speak of is not headed by the current gaggle of politicians that, by comparison, make even the national level political parties seem like they have our best interests at heart.
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    Default Re: How should European countries react on the NSA activities?

    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    I'll join that sentiment, assuming that the EU you speak of is not headed by the current gaggle of politicians that, by comparison, make even the national level political parties seem like they have our best interests at heart.
    The Eu isn't so bad. From my point of view it has three problems:

    1) National parties send only third grade politicians or politicians that failed in national parliaments. They get promoted to the EU, where they cannot cause too much trouble.

    2) Local politicians: It is always a good strategy bashing the EU if citizens are unhappy with something. One example is the water issue. People at Germany were very upset abut this. However, the program was innitiated by the national governments (incl. ours) and they had several opportunities to stop it. Once the people got upset, our local politicians were upset too putting blame on the EU.

    3) EU has no real power, it is still dominated by the national governemnts. There are only some fields were they have competence to pass laws and they use these far too much.

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    Though America is more in the position of "International Godfather".” Really ?

    “The Eu isn't so bad” Was not that bad. But now, unelected bodies dictate what is good or not, adoption of treaties against the will of population, liberal dictatorship (dictasoftship) (dictablanda not dictadura) imposing economical rules and hardship on the European Populations to save the Riches… I think the European Construction was supposed to unify the populations of the continent, not to oppress them
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