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    Fish can change sex. Keep that in your mind the next time you are chatting up a husky woman.
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    Fish can change sex. Keep that in your mind the next time you are chatting up a husky woman.
    Humans can change sex, too. See? We are still evolving
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    And as a sidenote: Sex exist because it's DAMN fun. I don't think the first fish who penetrated anther fish ever went back to the alternative..

    The first female fish to be penetrated must have been in for quite a shock though.
    Sex for pleasure are pretty much only apes doing it. It's more of an obsession rather than pleasure and love for most other species. Dogs for example, the swelling afterwards makes it equvalent that the girl grabs your dick and drags you around with it for quite a while after. You're stuck in an ankward position as well.

    And for cats, it's more horny teenager x5, for the males at least. The females also change behavior, but I haven't had females cats so I'm not sure if it unpleasant or not for the cat.

    Then you got the number of species that rapes, some of them with intentional mutiliation.

    And another for you Kadagar, a male ski instructor has to be a very exiting profession in the world of intelligent spiders. Or the mantis (risk for midsex decapitation).

    For apes, it appears to have much to do with bonding, either a pair or as a group.
    We are all aware that the senses can be deceived, the eyes fooled. But how can we be sure our senses are not being deceived at any particular time, or even all the time? Might I just be a brain in a tank somewhere, tricked all my life into believing in the events of this world by some insane computer? And does my life gain or lose meaning based on my reaction to such solipsism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironside View Post
    Sex for pleasure are pretty much only apes doing it.
    I do believe dolphins are doing it regularly for pleasure, too.

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    If you don't think cats do it for pleasure, you have never been around adolescent female cats who are not fixed. Once they find a human male they like, they will sexually assault his hand which is not unlike "getting slimed" from ghostbusters. And they purr the whole time. Unlike my ex wife.
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    Another reason to hate cats...
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    Sex is over rated. There are now better ways to procreate being tested and developed. Sex is more trouble than it is worth; a tool to conquer or a way to become emotionally closer to someone. I'm over it at this point.

    I feel like it is a vestige from a time when people had no electricity and couldn't play BF3 all night long. Also, when there was no porn hub.

    Either way, some are still horndogs, others are begining to recognize that it is a waste of a half hour when you could be streaming Netflix. For me it is like getting blackout drunk: something I did in highschool and college, but can't find a point to anymore.

    In marriage it is like royal court, still necessary to keep the kingdom together, but nobody takes the pomp and circumstance seriously like they did in the middle ages.
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    Possibly correct.

    But a disinterest in sex may be indicative of health problems ie lack of sleep, exercise or early stages of a disease or general unhappiness.

    Dogs when they are about to die will wander off to die alone. Humans often disengage from sex instead.

    Sex is higher up the motivational pyramid. Breathing, eating, exercise and many other parts need to be satisfied first.
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    Exercise is not really high up in my motivational pyramid. Not that I'm proud of that but I pretty much have to force myself to do it... The same cannot be said about breathing or eating... or sex, although I've never had sex yet... but the "motivation" is there
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    Exercise is not really high up in my motivational pyramid. Not that I'm proud of that but I pretty much have to force myself to do it... The same cannot be said about breathing or eating... or sex, although I've never had sex yet... but the "motivation" is there
    The motivation pyramid is a foundation up point of view. Unless all your more immediate needs are addressed motivations higher up the pyramid get ignored.

    When fighting for your life you won't think about cake.

    When dehydrated your desire to find over the next sand dune is not bikini clad babes it is water.

    Sex will only be a motivation if lower level requirements have been meet. So if you are worrying about shelter (mortgage) or your diet is crap you will not feel like something higher in the pyramid.
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    I understand what you mean I'm just not sure about the placement of exercise in the pyramid... unless by exercise you mean something drastically different than what I'm thinking about. But you are definitely right about the motivation pyramid in general. So your point is, that if someone doesn't want to have sex there's a lack in one of the areas further down in the pyramid?
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    Yes, if they seem fit and healthy something else is the cause ie stress, disease etc

    So if your libido drops it might be indicative of something quite serious as it is an early warning sign of something more serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio View Post
    Yes, if they seem fit and healthy something else is the cause ie stress, disease etc

    So if your libido drops it might be indicative of something quite serious as it is an early warning sign of something more serious.
    I do have serious chronic health issues. But, to be honest, it is quite liberating to not need sex. I do whatever I can to keep my relationship intimate in non sexual ways, with the occasional. Other than that, my other hobbies haven't been affected.

    Don't buy the crap about sex being a need. Intimacy may be a need, but sex is absolutely pointless and a vestige of the past. It is sold as new and exciting, but it couldn't be anything further from that. Is it better than doing the dishes? Yes. But I'll take pornhub over sex for the physical requirement any day. Don't have sex unless you want to get artificially attached to someone, get them pregnant, or catch an std.
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    What about people who are asexual? Or is asexuality a disease itself?


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    Asexuality doesn't affect the sex drive. It just seen as highly inconvenient like trying to please yourself to a picture of a slab of concrete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiaexz View Post
    Asexuality doesn't affect the sex drive. It just seen as highly inconvenient like trying to please yourself to a picture of a slab of concrete.
    Not from what I heard. What you describe sounds more like object sexuality.

    Object sexuality or objectum sexuality, in German Objektophilie (OS), is a pronounced emotional and often romantic desire towards developing significant relationships with particular inanimate objects. Those individuals with this expressed preference may feel strong feelings of attraction, love, and commitment to certain items or structures of their fixation.
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    Asexuality: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexuality

    Asexuality (or nonsexuality) is the lack of sexual attraction to anyone or low or absent interest in sexual activity.
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    Asexuality is distinct from abstention from sexual activity and from celibacy, which are behavioral and generally motivated by factors such as an individual's personal or religious beliefs; sexual orientation, unlike sexual behavior, is believed to be "enduring". Some asexual people do engage in sexual activity despite lacking a desire for sex or sexual attraction, due to a variety of reasons, such as a desire to please romantic partners or a desire to have children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    Not from what I heard. What you describe sounds more like object sexuality.
    ... No.

    I was saying there is no sexual attraction. Unless you are saying you find pictures of concrete similar to your own visual stimulation. The point was the typical forum-reader who does experience sexual arousal at certain things, and I picked something they would with 99.99% certainty, not experience such with, and thus they might understand the issue.
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    If you don't think cats do it for pleasure, you have never been around adolescent female cats who are not fixed. Once they find a human male they like, they will sexually assault his hand which is not unlike "getting slimed" from ghostbusters. And they purr the whole time. Unlike my ex wife.
    Let me rephrase what I meant. You're chewing viagra while working at the "hot girls gone wild nude bath" (how you got that job is another story). The downside is that you can't "enjoy the benefits" in any way for a week. When you finally get that moment it's gonna be pleassuable indeed, but it will contain way more desperation. More obsession than enjoying the moment.

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    So you're a "hump your leg for dominance and the dick gets stuck for while after, causing him to be dragged around by it" - dog person?

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    But I'll take pornhub over sex for the physical requirement any day.
    Since they did have a article series about it recently in a major Swedish newspaper. That pornhub might cause difficulties to be sexually attracted to someones more normal girlfriend/boyfriend/whatever, due to oversaturation. Dropping the porn for a while should fix it.
    No idea if it's your case (I'll assume not), but having intimate relationships without sex, but with an active sex drive is a bit unusual so I was reminded of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironside View Post
    So you're a "hump your leg for dominance and the dick gets stuck for while after, causing him to be dragged around by it" - dogs?
    Nope, actually I hate dogs even more than cats
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiaexz View Post
    ... No.

    I was saying there is no sexual attraction. Unless you are saying you find pictures of concrete similar to your own visual stimulation. The point was the typical forum-reader who does experience sexual arousal at certain things, and I picked something they would with 99.99% certainty, not experience such with, and thus they might understand the issue.
    You said it doesn't affect the sex drive and my point was that it does affect the sex drive in that there is none or the sex drive is severely reduced regardless of what asexual people look at. I may have misunderstood your example though.


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    Nope, actually I hate dogs even more than cats
    So do you like any animal at all?
    We are all aware that the senses can be deceived, the eyes fooled. But how can we be sure our senses are not being deceived at any particular time, or even all the time? Might I just be a brain in a tank somewhere, tricked all my life into believing in the events of this world by some insane computer? And does my life gain or lose meaning based on my reaction to such solipsism?

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    The best animals are the ones that can transform into sandwiches.
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    So do you like any animal at all?
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    I like them medium to well done
    What????????????????

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    I I... agree with HoreTore.
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    What????????????????

    There must be blood. You're ruining perfectly good meat.
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    It had better be shoe-leather or I won't be touching it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastDays View Post
    I like them medium to well done
    Meat in a sex thread? Hmm

    "pulls out a 20-feet pole, pokes with it a bit."

    We are all aware that the senses can be deceived, the eyes fooled. But how can we be sure our senses are not being deceived at any particular time, or even all the time? Might I just be a brain in a tank somewhere, tricked all my life into believing in the events of this world by some insane computer? And does my life gain or lose meaning based on my reaction to such solipsism?

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    I really wonder how many are surprised that this thread derailed pretty quickly...
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    For some its a new record before derailing .. Some just prematurely abort with a bang.
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