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Fragony 07:28 08-16-2013

Originally Posted by Papewaio:
Selective quoting... Couldn't resist.

Major Robert Dump 07:51 08-16-2013

I don't see what the problem is since there are no gay athletes

Chic Filet should be a sponsor.

HoreTore 11:36 08-16-2013

Originally Posted by Fragony:
More concerned about the attitude towards gays people from a certain religion have within our own borders. You can be gay in Russia as long as you don't want to make a point out of it and keep your head down a bit, that's not perfect but making all too much noise about it is kinda hypocrite.

Gays in Russia are lured on dates which quickly turn into torture sessions, which is then published on the internet, uncensored. Are you suggesting that going on a date means "making a point of it"?

I don't see much of a difference between the attitude of the resurgent christian values in russia, and the attitudes of muslim immigrants in western europe, by the way.

Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump:
I don't see what the problem is since there are no gay athletes

Chic Filet should be a sponsor.

Half the norwegians are gay...

Sir Moody 12:45 08-16-2013

I with Horetore here - the stories coming out of Russia are terrifying and the fact their government is actively ignoring these attacks (and worse actively telling the victims not to bother reporting them) very much earns them the "barbaric" moniker

we aren't just talking "good ole fashioned gay beatings" either - we are talking murders, "corrective" rapes, brutal maiming and torture - and still the Police and Government refuse to step in and curb the violence...

as to the Olympics... changing the venue or boycotting the event wouldn't change anything - better to take part and have the Worlds media shine a light on Russia...

rvg 13:06 08-16-2013

Originally Posted by Sir Moody:
I with Horetore here - the stories coming out of Russia are terrifying and the fact their government is actively ignoring these attacks (and worse actively telling the victims not to bother reporting them) very much earns them the "barbaric" moniker

we aren't just talking "good ole fashioned gay beatings" either - we are talking murders, "corrective" rapes, brutal maiming and torture - and still the Police and Government refuse to step in and curb the violence...

Can you provide a link to the aforementioned "murders", "corrective rapes" and the like? The OP link doesn't feature any violence, sexual or otherwise.

Sir Moody 13:22 08-16-2013

here is a link to an amalgamation of some stories which saves me tracking down all the links

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2013/08/08...russia-so-far/

Unfortunately there are no links to the "corrective rape" stories from actual new sources - some quotes of gay right activists claiming it happens and Stephen Fry made a point of it to the BBC but no actual cases in the news - then again you wouldn't expect there to be since rape is under reported as is even over here

rvg 13:28 08-16-2013

Originally Posted by Sir Moody:
here is a link to an amalgamation of some stories which saves me tracking down all the links

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2013/08/08...russia-so-far/

Unfortunately there are no links to the "corrective rape" stories from actual new sources - some quotes of gay right activists claiming it happens and Stephen Fry made a point of it to the BBC but no actual cases in the news - then again you wouldn't expect there to be since rape is under reported as is even over here

So... there's a mention of one (1) murder and no corrective rapes. That's just an isolated incident, nothing more.

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