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    Default Re: Can the government compel you to provide someone a service against your will?

    Quote Originally Posted by rvg View Post
    Countercounterpoint A. What isn't done for personal gain? Just about anything anyone ever does is done for personal gain. As for gaining more through gay sex vs normal, no idea, ask a gay guy.
    And they will say something about knowing that they were gay, even before puberty.

    The difference is that you can understand the gain with someone stealing and some murders (well if you never in your life has had a theiving or murderous impulse, you might not understand it), even if you reject the idea for other reasons. Your first response here was "ask a gay".

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    Countercounterpoint B. Aren't liberals (homosexuals in particular) shouting atop of their lungs about how being gay is not a choice, but rather something congenital?
    Yes, and people attracted to the same gender will have vastly higher correlation with expressing homosexual behavior. That attraction is not something they have a choise about, even if they have a choise about the expression. With that expression being a matter between two agreeing adults and normally harmless, it's no wonder that they're pushing it for being an accepted behavior, rather than tolerated.

    I'm not sure what you're getting at here. My point was that even things like theft and murder has a genetical component even if societal factors have most influence in that case.

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    Countercounterpoint C. Theoretically yes, but only theoretically. In reality most people strictly adhere to one style or the other, which why the society labels it as binary: for all practical purposes it is binary.
    It's more a point towards Rhyfelwyr than you actually. What that means is that a society that accepts or encurages gay behavior will have more of it, if only because more people are getting closer to their "natural selves" to use his words.

    Bisexuals often have a prefered gender even if they like both genders. That means with binary treatment, they'll try to stick with one gender.
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    Default Re: Can the government compel you to provide someone a service against your will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironside View Post
    And they will say something about knowing that they were gay, even before puberty.
    And you know that how exactly?

    The difference is that you can understand the gain with someone stealing and some murders (well if you never in your life has had a theiving or murderous impulse, you might not understand it), even if you reject the idea for other reasons. Your first response here was "ask a gay".
    This makes no sense at all.

    Yes, and people attracted to the same gender will have vastly higher correlation with expressing homosexual behavior. That attraction is not something they have a choise about, even if they have a choise about the expression. With that expression being a matter between two agreeing adults and normally harmless, it's no wonder that they're pushing it for being an accepted behavior, rather than tolerated.
    They argue that it's not a choice.

    I'm not sure what you're getting at here. My point was that even things like theft and murder has a genetical component even if societal factors have most influence in that case.
    Do you have any evidence of that?

    It's more a point towards Rhyfelwyr than you actually. What that means is that a society that accepts or encurages gay behavior will have more of it, if only because more people are getting closer to their "natural selves" to use his words.
    Why would any society want to encourage gay behavior?

    Bisexuals often have a prefered gender even if they like both genders. That means with binary treatment, they'll try to stick with one gender.
    Their behavior is binary. Their treatment is based on their behavior, not the other way around.
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