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    Erm I'm supposed to be playing the HRE if we are using SS? @Nightbringer
    oops, read that backwords, will fix :)
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    Norway up @LooseCannon1
    and the england/hre thing has been fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightbringer View Post
    Norway up @LooseCannon1
    and the england/hre thing has been fixed.
    Found the save. Will have this done tonight.

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    Slight problem-the game has been set to autoresolve all battles. Was this intended? https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local...d=279&id=10505 @Myth @Nightbringer

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    I believe we had decided to do autoresolve only on all battles, but if people want to modify this it would be good to do so at this early point.

    We could do

    1. autoresolve only
    2. autoresolve against humans, but fought battles against ai
    3. fought battles against all

    Personally, I would like to try autoresolve only against all, especially since I think it would help level out the different experience levels a little, but I am fine with switching if people want to.
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    If we do fought battles against all, wouldn't that give the aggressor a distinct advantage?

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    I can't fight any battles. If I do my game does "funny stuff" (making everything chromed, pitchblack and impossible to controll anything)
    So if it is in SS fought battles, I am out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCeLL View Post
    If we do fought battles against all, wouldn't that give the aggressor a distinct advantage?
    It gives the human player the advantage because the AI will never use your army properly in a battle. And it's worse than when the AI controls an AI faction army.

    I'm ok with staying all autoresolve. Also, which CAI are we using? Gracul or Savage? I didn't see that mentioned with our change to SS from KGCM. I played the first turn with Savage.

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    thanks for bringing that up loosecannon1. Your stainless steel settings should be savage ai, disable real recruitment, and nothing else.
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    Let's do forced AR. It takes a different kind of skill to estimate what forces to bring to be able to take a settlement without embarrassing losses.
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    sounds like forced AR is ok then :)

    I believe it is on your turn @Myth
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    Just to be clear - Lithuania gives points right off the bat, and so do the Moors since they are present on the continent of Europe?

    Also, a settlement can only give points once for it's capture per 10 turns (to prevent gifting/abandoning the settlement to the AI to then retake it)

    Also, please settle the conflicting rules about how many points capturing the target a crusade gives.

    Also, what happens when war is declared on an Catholic, or when Catholic armies are destroyed? Do they affect anything other than one's Papal standing and thus the risk of excommunication?

    Also, what happens if an AI faction attacks a human player but is not excommunicated?

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    Also, what happens if an AI faction attacks a human player but is not excommunicated?
    Do as a good catholic would: give them the other cheek.

    I will not be able to play this turn before tomorrow evening though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myth View Post
    Just to be clear - Lithuania gives points right off the bat, and so do the Moors since they are present on the continent of Europe?

    Also, a settlement can only give points once for it's capture per 10 turns (to prevent gifting/abandoning the settlement to the AI to then retake it)

    Also, please settle the conflicting rules about how many points capturing the target a crusade gives.

    Also, what happens when war is declared on an Catholic, or when Catholic armies are destroyed? Do they affect anything other than one's Papal standing and thus the risk of excommunication?

    Also, what happens if an AI faction attacks a human player but is not excommunicated?

    Sicilly up by the way. @Darth Feather

    "We, the Kaiser of the Holy Roman Empire, Frederick Karling, extend our hand in friendship to all true Christians and Catholics of Europe."
    Yes, moorish settlements to give points right off the bat (the one's in Iberia that is). It is the reconquista after all.

    Yes, one capture per 10 turns is a good idea.

    Player declared crusades provide a little less in terms of points than papal one's do.

    Declaring war on a catholic and destroying their armies caries no penalty except risk of excommunication by the pope.

    If the ai attacks you, you can just fend off their armies with no consequence, but you will still suffer penalties for taking their settlements unless they get excommunicated or the like.

    Yes, I think it is fair for the moorish settlements to give points right off the bat (the one's in Iberia that is). It is the reconquista after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Feather View Post
    Do as a good catholic would: give them the other cheek.

    I will not be able to play this turn before tomorrow evening though.
    I'm more of an "Assassinate their general and take their city in one turn with a trebuchet" kinda guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myth View Post
    I'm more of an "Assassinate their general and take their city in one turn with a trebuchet" kinda guy.
    Assasswhatwho? That is something a good Christian would never do. Repent you sins !!
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    Alrighty then. Poland, you're up next!
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    Norway up @LooseCannon1
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    And don't worry, attachments are just fine TheCeLL, but if you want to upload them to the site go to the downloads tab at the top of the page, select PBM save game files, and click the upload button on the upper left. :)
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    The French are up again
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    @Nightbringer poland is next again.
    May the autoresolve be ever in your favor ^^
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    HRE up! https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local...d=279&id=10518 @Myth Actually, played this one before CoG3 but uplinks didn't work for me earlier.

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    @Myth?
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    The Pope approached me with an offer for trade and map info. I refused (it's in the rules right?)
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    correct :)
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    Sorry, tomorrow morning acces to my computer will be restored. I will have played it before 12:00 AM GMT+1
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