Re: What can I say, it's Sweden
Originally Posted by HoreTore
HONK! oops, repeated that one. still trying to wrap my puny little mind around this concept.
What is the point of this? Making a fuss is illegal? Sounds Orwellian. I thought women in Iran had problems. You're whole country is? Is this in the real world?
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Re: What can I say, it's Sweden
There are certainly harsher laws. Racism and harassment comes to mind, perhaps a few others. They come with a probability of prison time, this guy is getting a fine. Back when I worked at a gas station, I saw several people fined for using their horn. You think they would fine someone for honking at a gas station, but not outside a mosque? What would be the sense in that?
But meh, do continue your crusade against "dhimmis" without understanding either the country or system in question, I don't really care.
The horn is for emergency use only(ie. alerting someone to an accident, and perhaps a few more things), and it's been that way since the car was introduced. Don't really know why, Scandinavian culture I guess. :shrugs:What is the point of this? Making a fuss is illegal? Sounds Orwellian. I thought women in Iran had problems. You're whole country is
Flashing your lights is also illegal btw, as well as using fog lights instead of driving lights, which is a rather common thing to get fined for.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: What can I say, it's Sweden
Nice try me gusta but he isn't charged for using his horn, but for using his horn before a mosque. Entirily different charge.
Re: What can I say, it's Sweden
May I introduce you to the term "escalation"?
Do it in a quiet neighborhood, and you'll be charged with disturbing the peace.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: What can I say, it's Sweden
Hmmm....
I'm starting to think you're the victim of a hoax, Frags. I've googled the story, but I can't find any results at all in Swedish newspapers; the only results I get are from papers like the local and various anti-jihad sites. None of those give any sources for their information, except some referencing each other.
I also checked the usual suspects, swedish and norwegian not-nazi-at-all sites, and found absolutely nothing. I find it very hard to believe that the local rightwing nutjobs wouldn't be the among the first to latch on to this story, and the local gives the date a whole week ago(august 23rd).
There seems to be a woman named Christina Weilander who is related to the legal business, but all I found was that she authored an article in a law publication and answered a question on the website of an organization offering free legal advice.
Time to check your sources, eh?
EDIT: I did find an article about a police car being reported for honking though....
Last edited by HoreTore; 08-30-2013 at 18:50.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: What can I say, it's Sweden
According to the article:There are no residential properties in the immediate vicinity.
From my googling, I've read some comments that use of the horn is rare in Sweden, as Horetore assumed, but I can not concretely find whether the cause is purely norm-al or an actual traffic regulation.There are no residential properties in the immediate vicinity.
Here, all I could findwas this snippet, which seems to imply that horn usage is not that uncommon:
On the other hand:More than half of the drivers said that each year road users are honking their horns, gesturing their
hands or doing something similar to them.
Sources like this one mention nothing about honking.This report is based on 112 responses from the drivers of winter maintenance vehicles on state roads
in the operational areas that are managed by Svevia, Skanska, NCC and Peab. The questionnaire
consisted of 40 questions. Most of the drivers are working as subcontractors, often employed by
truck operators.
On these sites I couldn't really find any information on traffic regulations. Maybe the Swedish-language versions have that info?
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Re: What can I say, it's Sweden
The swedish law website was horrible to navigate(no wonder, they are inferior after all), but this is one of the Swedish honking laws:
Which translates to:64 § När det behövs för att förebygga eller avvärja fara, skall en förare ge ljud- eller ljussignaler eller på något annat lämpligt sätt väcka andra trafikanters uppmärksamhet.
Signaler får inte ges längre än nödvändigt.
"When it is necessary to prevent or avert danger, a driver shall give audible or visual signals, or in any other suitable way to bring other road users' attention.
Signals must not be longer than necessary."
There may be more, but the site is a pain to navigate, so I don't really feel like finding more... And at any rate, it seems more and more likely that this story was concocted by some idiot anyway.
EDIT: Apparently the Swedish government doesn't publish their laws in a searchable format on the web. The website lagen.nu(can't believe I didn't notice the .nu) isn't a government site and doesn't include all the laws. Never trust a Swede....
Last edited by HoreTore; 08-30-2013 at 19:14.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: What can I say, it's Sweden
I dunno. By the looks (or should I say, sound ?) of it the "disturbance" is a tacked-on charge, much like USA prosecutors are fond of doing -- throw everything at the court and see what sticks.
In any case Horetore is correct that the Scandinavians do not approve of honking for the heck of it; it's the driving equivalent of shouting "fire" in a theatre. This isn't unique to Scandinavia either (the Netherlands springs to mind).
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Re: What can I say, it's Sweden
And for what reason, because it's Sweden we once again see total self-islamisation. He wasn't just fined for honking. Dhimmi's want more. Why not go to the mosque, there you can kiss their ass really easily when they least expect it should you oh so desire to do so
Last edited by Fragony; 08-31-2013 at 05:35.
Re: What can I say, it's Sweden
Sure no problem, escalation seems like a proper word to use more
Re: What can I say, it's Sweden
Got any proof this story is real, Frags?
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: What can I say, it's Sweden
Of course not I wasn't there. You keep going for the horning, but it isn't about the horning itself, it's about horning in front of a mosque and being able to be charged with up to 6 months of prison. Sweden is creepy, the perfect stephmom that you wouldn't trust with knives
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