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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube View Post
    You continue to misunderstand. That inequality and our culture of violence is a problem that needs solving. You won't solve it by banning guns. In fact, you'll never ban guns unless you solve it. But left-leaning politicians in America often like to propose gun control because it is an emotionally charged issue that can get them votes and spark controversy, not out of a desire to fix the problem. In America, the whole debate is a red herring.
    No, you misunderstand. I didn't say you have to ban guns, I said the real problem that needs to change is your culture, basically the same thing you say. You called my argument arrogant and then repeated it yourself but we actually agree on this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube View Post
    My point was lost, I guess. Population density is higher in Europe, but the nations are smaller and the administrative systems in place are far, far more effective for this sort of thing than ours ever will be. To act like we could enforce a gun ban even if it was enacted by Congress is to ignore some basic facts of our sprawling society. To fix our crime problems we have to fix our societal problems, but the guns will still be there either way.
    Only in the short term and since the rural areas are not the problem anyway, it doesn't matter as much if you cannot enforce the gun ban as effectively there, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou View Post
    You know, if you break the data down by ethnicity, you see that the US crime rates aren't that different than European countries.
    ....Just something to think about while you're looking down your noses at us.
    How? If I break an average down into several parts, the average stays the same, no? Or are you advocating that we ignore the crimes of certain ethnicities? Why would we?
    Last edited by Husar; 09-01-2013 at 10:03.


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