Civil War Trigger

[VAE VICTUS]

I'm 175 turns into a Parthia campaign, and I've over extended myself. I pulled my armies back, fearing a civil war due to low influence. Nothing happened. I decided to trigger, so I got my influence down to 1%. Nothing. 25 turns later nothing. Is CW only triggered by influence over 75%(ish), or is it just random?

[Sp4]

I think it is pretty random at times. As Parthia, I think a low influence should trigger it. If you are very high as a kingdom, it doesn't matter. Or shouldn't anyways.

[AntiDamascus]

There were a couple of discussions here that talked about the trigger for a CW. It was somewhat more complex than that I think.

[MadKow]

There is a load screen tip that specificly mentions ambition as the thing to lookout for as leading to civil wars. I don't know hot that ties with peoples experiences, as i never got that far, so far.

[phred]

Someone was posting about this at the .com site.
In his particular case the ultimate trigger was a statesman from another family with an ambition of 3.
But quite a few posters say there's a lot of randomness to the civil war trigger.

here's the thread if you want to read it. The discussion gets better a few pages in.
http://forums.totalwar.com/showthrea...ger-DISCOVERED


From the ingame Encyclopedia
"in a tribe or monarchy any show of weakness may be challenged, again leading to civil war."
"high ambition can lead to a bid for power through civil war"

[easytarget]

I've no idea what just triggered it in my campaign. As a game mechanic it needs some work both in terms of documentation and the politics implementation in general.

I'm not that distressed by it, it's the first interesting thing to happen in my campaign in 50 years, so honestly I welcome the diversion of having 10 stacks of uber Romans drop out of the sky like they teleported down from the enterprise right on top of Macedonia. And they are in fact wreaking havoc all over the place because they immediately proceeded to snag settlements and hit the ocean in every direction possible.

I also have to say I'm envious of their color scheme, could be I just like the change, but either way, the nice blue colors they are sporting look nice.

Anyway, no idea what triggered it, I was in the 30's. been managing everyone so they stayed even with me, never too low, never too high, just to see if it was avoidable, apparently it's not, which is a shame in and of itself, it should be possible to manage politics to avoid it, otherwise what's the point of politics, just ignore it and the event will randomly kick in anyway, or game it and cause it to trigger early to avoid the number of stacks I'm facing now (if you can figure out what causes it). Oh, imperium was in the last section, but by no means pegged.

Go figure. But hey, least I've got something to do for the next 5 or 10 years, haha...

[Sp4]

Someone was posting about this at the .com site.
In his particular case the ultimate trigger was a statesman from another family with an ambition of 3.
But quite a few posters say there's a lot of randomness to the civil war trigger.

here's the thread if you want to read it. The discussion gets better a few pages in.
http://forums.totalwar.com/showthrea...ger-DISCOVERED


From the ingame Encyclopedia
"in a tribe or monarchy any show of weakness may be challenged, again leading to civil war."
"high ambition can lead to a bid for power through civil war"

That discussion is such a pain the ass to read.

[VAE VICTUS]

on this forum? i didnt see them, I'd really like to know when to expect CW, I guess that is why it is the way it is.

[Bramborough]

on this forum? i didnt see them, I'd really like to know when to expect CW, I guess that is why it is the way it is.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...aying-as-Rome)

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...War-(not-Rome)

In addition to the discussions themselves, toward the end of the first thread Hooahguy linked a good vid about the internal politics system.