Do these + gravitas traits on agents actually do anything?

**Sp4** · 10-02-2013, 06:41

Here, my agent has a trait that gives her +2 gravitas a turn, which is nice but do they actually do anything for agents? Agents can't gather gravitas and they don't contribute to your overall influence or do they? Embedding her in an army doesn't do anything either.

**Bramborough** · 10-02-2013, 10:08

I've been assuming that +gravitas on an army-embedded agent would add to the gravitas of whatever character is leading the army, and the trait would be inactive whenever the agent is acting independently. If the agent is embedded, the +gravitas does show up under the general's portrait in the mouse-over screen for "Agent's Effects". Never actually added up a generals gravitas gain on a turn to see if it's actually happening or not.

**Sp4** · 10-02-2013, 11:11

Originally Posted by Bramborough

I've been assuming that +gravitas on an army-embedded agent would add to the gravitas of whatever character is leading the army, and the trait would be inactive whenever the agent is acting independently. If the agent is embedded, the +gravitas does show up under the general's portrait in the mouse-over screen for "Agent's Effects". Never actually added up a generals gravitas gain on a turn to see if it's actually happening or not.

It's not.

**easytarget** · 10-02-2013, 22:55

And is that because it needs to be added to the list of things not working?

Or is it because CA decided more meaningless choices like all those in the politics module was a part of the larger design plan intended to make R2 a mediocre game in comparison to their previously rather brilliant S2 effort, and as a result they decided some drop downs with no effect would be fun?

Ok, I'll give a real alternative, is it not supposed to do that? And if not, what is it supposed to do?

**Sp4** · 10-03-2013, 04:19

I don't know, that's why I am here =p

I also don't know why people keep praising Shogun 2 so high. I found the game boring and stupid most of the time, with every faction being literally the same (yet somehow, cultural penalties upong conquering a place still happened), walls being climbed without any sort of special equipment, bla bla, anyways yeah, I thought the game was fairly boring and on that level at least, Rome 2 is doing better. S2 had it's fair share of useless things too, like screwed auto resolve calculations, useless or plain stupid choices for retainers and such...
The only reason I played the game as much as I did was because it had a working co-op mode and if someone had made a co op mode for Rome 1, I would have just played that instead. The co op mode in Rome 2 is kind of lacking at the moment with bugs, lag that can't really be explained and ridiculous slow downs in all and any situations.. so yeah it is kind of a crappy alternative. If someone made a working co-op mode for Rome 1, I'd still leave this alone XD

**Slaists** · 10-03-2013, 15:03

I suspect, CA just has a general random pool of house retainers and draws from that pool get applied to all characters who have the slot (for a retainer): thus, no distinction is being made whether the household retainer is useful for the target char or not.