I hate to tell you, but there is a great deal of what you speak of in the large suburban areas of the Pacific Northwest too, and the rest of the country to boot.
I don’t think you would have to go to far to find it in Eugene too.
I hate to tell you, but there is a great deal of what you speak of in the large suburban areas of the Pacific Northwest too, and the rest of the country to boot.
I don’t think you would have to go to far to find it in Eugene too.
Education: that which reveals to the wise,
and conceals from the stupid,
the vast limits of their knowledge.
Mark Twain
So I'm thanking every response that apportions some measure of fault to ignorance. Ignorance in and of itself is not evil, it's just a matter of fact. I will forever be ignorant in the field of rocket science, and I'll never be ashamed of it. Our problem lies in the cause of the ignorance. I would argue that the cause is apathy. Most of us simply don't care. I have seen two reasons for the apathy.
first - I got mine and am set, don't care if you have yours or not, don't need to know.
second - the man is holding me down and I have no chance, so why should I care.
Most Americans are apathetic. Until we get hungry again we will have no reason not to be. You hungry people in the rest of the world can go ahead and fight over who will host the next success story (current American Dream).
edit - not capitalizing us in the title was purposeful. I suppose my play on us ignorance wasn't that amusing though. So no matter.
Last edited by The Lurker Below; 10-09-2013 at 19:19.
"The good man is the man who, no matter how morally unworthy he has been, is moving to become better."
John Dewey
Well f me if somehow I managed to make Americans apathy an ideological issue. I sure didn't mean for that to happen.
It is pointless to discuss the causes for the poor Americans. We will not agree. Thread after thread after thread breaks down into this argument and nothing is proven from that, no minds are changed. Can't we just let it go at that?
"The good man is the man who, no matter how morally unworthy he has been, is moving to become better."
John Dewey
Americans are complacent.
Vitiate Man.
History repeats the old conceits
The glib replies, the same defeats
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Let's face some VERY simple facts here...
USAnians coming to Europe are generally seen as stupid and unsophisticated.
Europeans coming to the USA are generally seen as intelligent and sophisticated.
We can play the "blame shift" game all day long, but this kind of IS how it IS, no?
I'm sure many USAnians have empirical evidence of other situations, but cultural views are there for a reason.
Er, you can't just make up "cultural views" on the spot...I'm sure many USAnians have empirical evidence of other situations, but cultural views are there for a reason.
Vitiate Man.
History repeats the old conceits
The glib replies, the same defeats
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
so just did.
But I have empirical evidence to support it!
I live close to a national park and lots of Europeans come into my work during the summer time. They like to wear fannypacks and socks with sandals. I've never considered socks with sandals to be intelligent and sophisticated, except for when I was 10 and I got bullied a lot.
Fashion is whatever Europeans decide it is.
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