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    Default Re: What does the UK, France and the Netherlands have in common?

    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    That was exactly the argument I made why Britin should pay, so what's your point? Just pay already, we see an estate that owes people money for crimes committed and damages done, that your inheritance is not your fault is beside the point.
    Except your debt was agreed to in print and enforced by war, whereas our "debt" is pure speculation, dubious in validity, asked for by neither involved sides and demanded by outside parties powerless to enforce it. Unfortunately your ancestors signed the dotted line to a sum to be paid over time, ours signed to cessation of land ownership and we are 4-7 decades too late to do anything about it.
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    Except your debt was agreed to in print and enforced by war, whereas our "debt" is pure speculation, dubious in validity, asked for by neither involved sides and demanded by outside parties powerless to enforce it. Unfortunately your ancestors signed the dotted line to a sum to be paid over time, ours signed to cessation of land ownership and we are 4-7 decades too late to do anything about it.
    So you basically say you got away with it in both cases because you won the respective wars.
    That's exactly what I meant when I said you show some arrogance and lack of actual regret.

    All the arguments brought up are really just a cover for "might makes right, nanana, suck it up!"
    The Americans are a lot more honest about it.


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    So you basically say you got away with it in both cases because you won the respective wars.
    No, I'm saying that we dont have any debt beyond what you think we do. Any debt we did have, we paid by leaving quietly and not breaking or taking back the stuff we left behind.

    1 billion taxpayers, billions of tonnes of untapped resources, trillions in yet unclaimed relics and we still left it all behind, willingly, without much incident or sour feeling during the transition on either side. How many times in history has that happened that? Add that to the millions we've spent on aid over the years and I think the debt's been sufficiently settled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    No, I'm saying that we dont have any debt beyond what you think we do. Any debt we did have, we paid by leaving quietly and not breaking or taking back the stuff we left behind.

    1 billion taxpayers, billions of tonnes of untapped resources, trillions in yet unclaimed relics and we still left it all behind, willingly, without much incident or sour feeling during the transition on either side. How many times in history has that happened that? Add that to the millions we've spent on aid over the years and I think the debt's been sufficiently settled.
    All of which you acquired through crime and wasn't yours to begin with.
    And now you think you get bonus points for giving it back...

    The aid is a good point however and does indeed speak in your favor.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    All of which you acquired through crime and wasn't yours to begin with.
    And now you think you get bonus points for giving it back...
    Well it took you having Russian troops sacking Berlin to give your criminal possessions back, so really leaving and not fighting yet another costly war when we stood to loose 50 times more than you did should count as a plus in comparison to the rest of the thieves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    Well it took you having Russian troops sacking Berlin to give your criminal possessions back, so really leaving and not fighting yet another costly war when we stood to loose 50 times more than you did should count as a plus in comparison to the rest of the thieves.
    Well, you forget the real motives again, such as your economic situation after the World Wars, which made it too expensive to hold on to the colonies by force, that the colonies had become more of a drain than an actual surplus for your economy (contrary to what "1 billion of taxpayers" insinuates) and the revolutions wthat sprung up such as the one by Gandhi etc. It's like you stole a credit card and gave it back once it was locked, and now expect a reward for giving it back.


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