Jesus was invented?

[Fragony]

The theory isn't new but this guy apparantly has the prmary sources to back it up. I am curious.

[CountArach]

The theory isn't new but this guy apparantly has the prmary sources to back it up. I am curious.

Except that he almost certainly doesn't. Archaeologists would be the first ones to have access to any new source material. Archaeology requires a degree in Archaeology and attachment to a dig site. He has neither.

[Fragony]

Except that he almost certainly doesn't. Archaeologists would be the first ones to have access to any new source material. Archaeology requires a degree in Archaeology and attachment to a dig site. He has neither.

The little of what I heard is that he found correspondence that back up his claim, I'll see it when I see it. How archaelogy is relevant is beyond me though, what are they supposed to dig up..

[Ironside]

The little of what I heard is that he found correspondence that back up his claim, I'll see it when I see it. How archaelogy is relevant is beyond me though, what are they supposed to dig up..

The correspondence? There's not many old roman attics left for someone to find something remarkable from.

[Fragony]

The correspondence? There's not many old roman attics left for someone to find something remarkable from.

It's just what I read on a website that hates more than 5 sentences that isn't exactly famous for knowing what they are talking about. I heard about the theory that jezus was a Roman invention before, but that's how far my knowledge about it goes, I know zero of the specifics.

[Husar]

It gave me the typical conspiracy vibe right away. Small group of evil government people invents story to control the population...
He would've had me if he had said they were a group of lizards but the way he presents it is completely unbelievable...

[Fragony]

It gave me the typical conspiracy vibe right away. Small group of evil government people invents story to control the population...
He would've had me if he had said they were a group of lizards but the way he presents it is completely unbelievable...

Keep in mind that declaring yourself Messias was a bit of a normal thing at the time, it's not that odd that Jezus was a Roman invention if you consider that.

[CountArach]

The little of what I heard is that he found correspondence that back up his claim, I'll see it when I see it. How archaelogy is relevant is beyond me though, what are they supposed to dig up..

Unless a text is sitting in a church or a Vatican archive, completely unnoticed by people, it is archaeologists who find these scrolls. Certainly that is how most of the recent discoveries have been made. Hence archaeology is completely relevant.

[Sp4]

Invented, of course but I doubt it was some sort of 'government conspiracy'.

[Fragony]

Invented, of course but I doubt it was some sort of 'government conspiracy'.

That it might be is taken seriously by scholars though, wouldn't dismiss the idea all too fast. Conspriracy is perhaps too big a word, but policy, who knows. There was a messias-cultus at the time leading to a lot of civil unrest, and 'finding' him must have crossed a lot of people's mind.

'Everyone knows the Romans hijacked the story of Christianity. But they didn't invent it all for the giggles. They were rather thorough in trying to stamp it out in the beginning.'

That's complicated. Roman were very traditinal and feared that abandoning of worship of their gods would bring hardship. On the other hand, they did respect the jew's having only one god. How that makes sense I don't know. Christians were also suspected of incest because they called eachother brother and sister.

[Rhyfelwyr]

I wonder how the Book of Revelation would fit into this theory, since it quite clearly describes the city of Rome (as in ancient Rome, we can ignore the Vatican for now) as a new Babylon - an evil place of persecution whose downfall and total destruction is prophesied.

An odd thing for a Roman aristocrat to write...